Will Lewis' career have an asterisk?

And have you been consistently reporting it? I get every report on the forum and I simply don't recall any that reported the use of "haters", "delusional" or "blinkered" combined with the persistent use of an otherwise antagonistic tone toward another user, but I will certainly be on the lookout for such reports now.

Andrew has been point in the F1 forum for a while because he actually spends some time in F1. Andrew usually does a very thorough job of creating a synopsis of specific F1 actions for the other moderators, so we're not unfamiliar with some of the issues, but DM and I generally pay very light attention to F1 as we trust Andrew and we simply don't have the time to keep up with the players and posts on a daily or even weekly basis as the regular users of the F1 forum do. You now have some of our attention. Telling us there's been a lot of trolling going on lately is relatively useless. Reporting specific examples lets us examine the posts in context and we will either reject it, add it to a user's profile of those being watched that may lead to future action, or take immediate action. There may or may not be visible action (not all actions are public), but we do promise to look at it.

A user will not get into trouble for reporting another user's posts, but a user can get into trouble for allowing another user to "get their goat" and lashing back.

 

Time to be a dobber then! Lol

 

Me too, it looks like he's fixin' for a lickin'

 

Hey, I just realised, between you and I we have 10 WDC, Hamilton will never catch us

 

Don't bet on it..i'll hunt you down and make you wear my clothes!
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He looks like a "superhero" invented for a terrible TV add "LewisLettuce"
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could this be the new green lantern suit?

 

I heard he turned green to move to ville verde! Look out Pedro, he's comin to get ya!

 

LOLO, i hope his suit is fireproof...green stuff tends to burn around here!|!!

 

If someone has an opinion they keep saying that you don't want to see, just use the handy ignore feature.

Now if lots of people like what they say, and so respond then you'll see those quotes. All you have to do is also ignore the people that like and encourage what they say as well.

Any use of reply/quote at all is an encouragement to continue posting, whether agreement or disagreement.

There are a few that really need to understand that others they disagree with do not have to be kicked off the forum.Just stop quoting/replaying, and use ignore. It works really really well.

Or of course, you can respond at every turn, encouraging a response in turn ad perpetuum.

 

Lewis made the call to leave Mclaren which was an acknowledged at the time front running team; and move to what was a publicly acknowledged mid field team, a move considered highly questionable by the public here on this forum.

Now I don't know what information he had available, but that choice was from an outsiders perspective a brave one. It could be the equivalent of moving to Renault from Red Bull or Ferrari.

I really don't see how you can take away anything based on the risk of moving teams.

Now if someone had chased last years dominating teams with every move I could understand. However, this isn't what Hamilton has done.

 

Actually, the Mercedes was getting into its stride the year before he joined, and the new rules were known to favour Mercedes. Yes, it was still a risk, but it was measured to those that knew what Ross had going.

 

Lets use the forum time machine and see if everyone said the same as you postulate about the move:

 

It was not Lewis´ idea to join Mercedes but Lauda convincing him...There was an interview with Lauda lately and Lewis exactly asked him "why should I leave McLaren to join you"...And obviously Lauda had the right answers....

 

So....Lewis was worth it to Mercedes? One of the biggest F1 contracts ever got signed there.

That isn't an asterisks, that is proof of top talent, perhaps greatest driver on the grid.

Lewis replaced Michael Schumacher.

That isn't an asterisk, that is a major accomplishment to take the grid spot of the most successful F1 driver that was on the grid at that time.

If Lewis wasn't a top talent, why would Mercedes have the right answers?

The move to Mercedes proves that Lewis could win at more than one team. It also proved he was valuable to more than one team.

The new search feature isn't as good as the old one, otherwise I would dig up more posts with ease that would confirm the risk of moving to Mercedes only adds to legend, rather than subtracting.

 

Yet the Mercedes car makes champions, the drivers themselves are just the lucky guys that become champions because of that car

 

It is not luck when you switch from a top team to a team battling out for mid field places.

Hamilton did the equivalent of a present day move to Renault from Ferrari or Red Bull.

It was a bold step.

Looking back at the responses that reacted to it live would show just how bold it was. I've given just a small sample from this forum.

 

Are you suggesting that Hamilton turned Mercedes around and into the dominant team it has been since 2014?

 

Again this Argument that Lewis "can win in more than one team"....
Why is this a proof of "greatness" when both Teams provided the best car on the grid???
Actually Lewis did not win in different Teams because in 2008 McLaren was the Mercedes works Team and he left a Mercedes customer Team to rejoin the Mercedes Works Team once they sorted out [emoji6]
And only because people here in this Forum questioned the move makes it an achievement??? As said above: it is not like Lewis turned the Mercedes in a winning Team Single handed.

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I wish for the day any combination of Lewis/Max/Vettel in the same team. Then we might see some decent racing again.

by the time that happens Alonso will be looong gone.

 

No, I merely point at that a large amount of people on this forum thought the move to Mercedes Idiotic on Hamilton's part.

Which makes Hamilton's WDC's with Mercedes all the more powerful. Hamilton made a brave move stepping into a team that was struggling in the mid field. Hamilton's sustained dominance requires him to be of a caliber to get and keep those rides in the first place.

 

I'm sure his 'gamble' had absolutely nothing to do with a gigantic amount of money and a huge reduction in corporate events/red tape. Nothing. Zero...

 

Yes I have had a dig through some old posts, and it was very amusing to say the least, however I have come to the conclusion that it makes no odds whatever the achievements Hamilton gains in F1, for some it will never be enough, bizarrely enough obnoxious comments still continue to try and discredit his success, and if it's not about his racing, they end up discussing his choice of attire, go figure..

 

Yes. But at the same time no one here believed Mercedes' Claims that they where 80-100hp ahead of the other teams. Myself included. Impossible I thought. Complete ********. Until they actually drove that car.

Mercedes had a winner, a car developed by MSC together with Brawn and Costa. Whilst Ferrari was prattling on about not wanting an I4 or V6, Mercedes was putting the final touches on their car. Their magic ingredient is that MGU-H, the thing they don't want to see going with the next rules. They convinced Lewis about their great engine, and how as a works team they'll have final say in if customer teams can use fast engine mode or not. It was very simple: "see, if Mclaren builds a good car with our engine, we can quite simply stop them from using the fast engine mode so you can't win with it''. Hard to bet against a car developed by Brawn and Schumacher. Add in a big payday, team up with your best friend (...at the time) and more freedom to express his personality/music and love for bling, it was a done deal.