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1985 Mondial Brake pedal not returning!

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  1. Anthony bentley

    Anthony bentley Formula Junior

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    Put my foot on the brakes and the pedal is staying down. I can hook my foot underneath and release them. What’s the first thing to look at?
    Thanks.
     
  2. davem

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    Slave cylinder might be bad. Does the brake warning light not go off?
    Check for a puddle of brake fluid under engine.
    The clutch is hydraulic and shares the same fluid as the brake system.
    The slave cylinder is the most common part to fail.
     
  3. theunissenguido

    theunissenguido F1 Rookie
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    ABS or not ? Has brake reservoir enough brake fluid ? if yes, and there isnt a leak at the brakes calipers, the seals inside brake pump are shot. There can be a leak between pump and booster (inside) also.

    Guido
     
  4. Anthony bentley

    Anthony bentley Formula Junior

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    Can’t see any fluid loss but I’ll keep an eye. What about collapsed brake pipe working as a one way valve?
     
  5. Anthony bentley

    Anthony bentley Formula Junior

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    Brake warning light is not on.
     
  6. srephwed

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    Find out where the fluid is going. that is the only way the pedal goes down too far. It may not be coming back up because over time brake fluid will absorb moisture and debris will build up. When fluid escapes it allows the piston to travel farther that normal and it will get debris in it and not function correctly. Good luck.
     
  7. mike32

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    That would only jam 1 brake on
     
  8. moysiuan

    moysiuan F1 Rookie
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    Sounds like a clutch slave, or as likely the line going to it which is near the exhaust and will fail from the heat, thevslave has a seal in it that also gets affected by the heat of the area. Definitely the first thing to rule out. You can take off the left rear wheel and liner, and the line is mounted on the bulkhead, attached to a hard metal line on one end and the slave on the other. You are looking for wetness or other signs of a fluid leak.
     
  9. Anthony bentley

    Anthony bentley Formula Junior

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    Hi, brake pedal is firm and goes down the way it should (not to the floor) it just doesn't return up, would this be servo issue.
     
  10. Anthony bentley

    Anthony bentley Formula Junior

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    Is there a brake servo pressure relief valve maybe??
     
  11. mike32

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    Daft question i know but have you checked the pedel return spring is ok
     
  12. Anthony bentley

    Anthony bentley Formula Junior

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    Not daft at all, it's on my list when I get to my cars at the weekend. I wanted a check list to go through.
     
  13. mike32

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    The spring should return the pedel on its own, as its big enough
     

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