To clarify, the hybrid V6 engine is being developed for the Dino (same unit seen under the Giulia's hood, with some extra electric juice). So hybrid units are on the cards but not for the 488 GTO (let's call it GTO for me moment), which will use the same GTB's twin-turbo V8 and not a hybrid engine as theorized by some websites. Sorry for the confusion
I'm going to assume that a striping scheme will be an option, as has been the pattern. If you're given the opportunity to order one, will you opt for the stripes or keep it bare? I'm in the stripeless camp.
Let's play "ques the number" game for the power of the engine. 360 - CS 400-425hp 6% gain 430 - scuderia 490-510hp 4% gain 458 - speciale 570-610hp 7% gain 488- GTO 670-............ Let's say 4-6% gain, that's 697 to 710p. Beeing a turbo, and we know small increase in turbo presure is easy power, I say Ferrari will give something close to 10%, somewhere to 737. So, the smallest gain is somewhere at <700, and the biggest is somewhere at <740. Considering Mclaren 720s has 720hp, my thought is that Ferrari will give this car exactly 1 hp less or more. So 719/721hp is my bet.
I can appreciate others that may not like the stripes, however I for one think that having them is part of the charm for VS cars.
Great analysis. I think 700hp will be the number. Do you have the V12 HP compared to the special V8s? For example, would be cool to see how many hp the Scud had compared to the 599 and if that plays a role.
Scuderia-599 510vs620(670 GTO) Speciale-f12 610vs740(780 TDF) By this analogy 488gto-812 superfast should have less hp than 488GTB
let me throw my hat into the ring. -812 Superfast VS will be the very final NA V12 Ferrari. The Zenith -812 Superfast will be a down sized V12 Hybrid as will the successor for the LaFerrari. This will (sort of) keep the NA V12 alive for Ferrari. -488 Successor and Dino will not be Hybrid as they will be a downsized Twin Turno V8 and V6.......so no need to add add hybrids as they have already dropped displacement and added turbos. Its just that simple folks. Predicting upcoming powertrains for sports cars/super cars isn't that difficult. Everyone thought the new C7 ZR1 was going to be a DOHC V8 which made me laugh. I predicted a OHV variation of the LT4 Supercharged with a 2.9L Supercharged and guess what....... I was bang on. Making an all new DOHC engine for such a small production ZR1 would cost WAY too much money when GM could simple strengthen and slap on a bigger Supercharger to their existing engine. anyone that points to the original C4 Zr1 DOHC engine I say this.........GM thought the DOHC V8 was the future for the Corvette V8 and the Pushrod was a dead end.......Then when the C5 came out they realized they we're dead WRONG. As for Lambo, they can only hold on to the NA V12 and V10 for the Aventador/Huracan series. After that, its time to change(not saying a want this)
Oh you mean like when he says Ferrari might leave F1 and might join Formula E..........ahhhh you're new to this I see.
It is said that somebody heared that a test driver once said at a test at the NOS "too not turn off the KERS". The Spy Video of the NOS this summer, it sounds at the parking lot (next to the main road) like it pulled the first meters only electrically - at least not as normally the engine revs + (automatically) engages the clutch. Marchionne said that by 2019, every Ferrari will be hybrid. Porsche brings about bomb-NOS-times with the GT2RS and generally an abnormal demand for GT models. McLaren a lightweight construction on another level. Lamborghini still has a N / A V10 on their small model range; Mercedes a technical wonder with the ProjectOne and a price / performance miracle with the GT-R. The technology is improving rapidly. And that F is satisfied with a little improved 488GTO - I do not think so. I hope we see next to the special name and the already very good 488GTB - something special with the 488VS.
F140C is right. Ferrari will bring very soon the V6 tt (F154 V6, which comes from the same engine family as the GTB engine F154 CB) with an electro unit as their first mass produced hybrid powertrain (maybe in the "Dino", which can also be the Portofino with a V6 hybrid). The drivers are new environmental protection guidelines/laws and the wish/need for the ablility to address a cheaper market segment with a separate powertrain unit (it has to be more than a tuned Alfa engine...). The V6 tt including the electro component will have the same installation length as the larger V8 brothers (F154 CB, F154 BD (GTC4Lusso and Portofino) and F154 AM (Maserati QP and soon also in the Levante) which is very important in regards to the development costs. This hybrid engine should be usable in the future as an alternative drive in the different models. A 488GTO with hybrid is unimaginable. This is technically not feasible with reasonable development costs.
I actually hope it doesn’t employ KERS. If it ends-up being a car I want and I’m lucky enough to order, I’d prefer the engine was simple. Let’s be real - whatever the power plant is, it will be insane. More than enough can be accomplished by producing greater power from the current twin turbo. I will totally take for granted that the engine will be amazing. The difference between 50 more horsepower or a touch more torque really means little to me. I’ll never experience all of that power. To me It will all be about how it looks.
my dealer (central europe) just emailed me early 2019 delivery. and yes, i shall go with stripes:::)))
some kind of KERS system sound good. Trading traditional 100kg diet with 100kg KERS system might be nice. So the GTO might have the same weight as the 488gtb but with 70-100hp from an electric engine.
Agreed. I think the old standards of power increase for the "special" model won't apply anymore because this is a turbo. Instant power increase with more boost.
If there is no Dino On the horizon, something else is for sure. Marchionne said in several interviews that at least two completely new models will join the portfolio. Assuming one will be the “FUV” what is the second model about?
I too like the Dino design. Still, the Dino was a money grab for Ferrari, although it has enjoyed a new life of legitimacy over the last many years. They didn’t even consider it worthy of the company name or badge. Whatever they may add to the portfolio, I highly doubt it will be called “Dino” as so many like to refer to it as.
