488 GTO ?

Clearly, English gentlemen don't tell fibs...

 

The funny thing is that, in the pics Murat posted, you can see other people holding their phones/cameras and taking pics.

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If that's actually true (dealers losing their allocations), I wonder how Ferrari can tell who shared those photos?

 

it is not fully sold. my dealer said 2-3 (more 2 than 3) years until delivery if i order now.

 

It would indeed but that's my second option at present.

Not quite correct as the wheels were as delivered from Michelotto in that finish, albeit we stripped them to get a proper finish but in the same paint.

I think you are right now I consider it and why should I not have silver painted carbon wheels. Cool and subtle and function versus aesthetics solved. Just the question of the cost.

 

Maybe this could help:

19th January “one to one customer contact”
22th January dealers will have their allocation
16th February media realease
20th February Private preview for buyers
6th March Geneva motorshow launch

 

I think we did as I picked up about the titanium rods on the early fact posts. They make a substantial difference as you know markedly reducing rotating mass and reciprocating load and wouldn't surprise me if there was a good 50/60hp + just there. Added to all the carbon, the bill keeps going North.......

 

As I keep on saying, this has never been Ferrari's aim. It's the total package which will be far more involving and intoxicating. If you want straight line acceleration, buy a dragster.

 

Someone help me with basic physics....I get that it lets the engine spin up faster/higher....how can a lighter con rod make 50-60hp more ?

 

Fxxk-EVO, 488 VS, 488 LE, 812 tdf, these are the Ferrari I'm looking forward to see

 

As I understand it as the crank rotates the rod is pushed out and then pulled back in. The weight of what the crank is pushing out and pulling back in is clearly very important as the lighter whatever it is pushing and pulling, the less energy is wasted in so doing and this gets markedly more efficient the higher you rev. I think it only really starts to have a benefit above 5,000 revs. Should have added that titanium rods weigh some 30% less and are stronger and more durable, provided they are handled carefully.

Just realised, doing my own maths, that if the 488 puts out 660, then just with this change the VS must be close to 720?

I hope this helps and am sure someone with greater engineering knowledge will chip in.

 

This seems to be a reliable spy pic But what in the world is going on under the right side of the nose ?


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Some sort of winglet/fence?

 

Thanks. I always thought lighter con rods have less inertia, so change direction more easily, but didn't think normal con rods "ate" almost 10% of the output.

Good job I didn't study engineering.

 

That's why Ferrari heavily works on aero efficiency (ratio between vertical load and air resistance coefficients) and I'm pretty sure the active diffuser flaps will carry over to the 488VS, unloading downforce to favor top speed on the straights.

Very helpful indeed. Cheers.

 

Remember It's a prototype, not the final version.

 

I could well be wrong on the HP gain myself being no engineer and apologise for the somewhat condescending explation, I was trying to keep it very simple!

 

I really couldn’t care less how many they make. If the car is amazing I will want one. If they make 100 and it doesn’t appeal to me I won’t want one. It really is as simple as that.

 

488 challenge derived engine???

I thought all v8 challenge cars used standard road going v8 engines.

This car sounds very promising, like sombody is really waking up Ferrari from deep sleep. I think Mclaren just did that.

Hopefully it is not just an ilusion.

 

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The car to the right of this car I believe is the final version as it is covered up. You can see its CF treatment and nose area is different.

 

Basically yes, but 488C engine is lighter than the road version, has different engine mapping, shorter gear ratios and lighter Ti-exhaust system.

 

And note the wrapped rear engine cover. I wonder if it might receive a sort of tdf lite treatment.

 

Any possibility of non black color choice on the rims?

 

Didn't one of the pics or posts say that is was plastic and not glass and not sure if that's standard or optional.

 

As Ingenere pointed out, carbon can be painted and is often left uncoated to show it is carbon, hence why not have grey/silver painted carbon rims, a small penalty in weight and not so small penalty in cost on top of the $25,000 or whatever.

 

I think you guys are both right and while we can't be sure of the power gains from this, I think it provides the opportunity not just for more power, but I think even more important, quicker response. In keeping with the "its the whole package" theme, I am really excited about this car. What I love about Ferrari is they transcend the mechanics and science in a way that makes what they do art. In this case kinetic art- I can't wait!

Agreed on the CF wheels, I just wonder if they will be better/ worse/ the same than ordinary metal wheels when it comes to damage. My guess is since "normal" wheels are painted and clear coated, then it should be about the same. I also wonder how much weight the paint might add back in.. My guess is likely nominal. Though, the CF look might not be quite as bad as the "black holes" - my guess is they will look more dark grey than black.