488 GTO ?

http://autoweek.com/article/rumormill/leaked-presentation-packed-ferrari-488-gto-details

 

I realize that I am getting old but I find the willingness to play the silly games for a car hard to understand. Yes, I am sure it will be neat and I would love to have one, but we are talking about access to a car, not for a cure for cancer.
FWIW I have owned Ferraris since 1974.

 

A very strange claim. Energy is not expended moving the conrod/piston up and down.

In the absence of friction, inside an rotating but unpowered engine, momentum is conserved between the rotating crank & flywheel and the reciprocating pistons & con-rods etc. The linear momentum from the moving piston & conrod is transformed into angular momentum of the rotating crank/flywheel, back and forth as the piston travels through its cycle. The con-rod has some angular momentum too, if we want to be exact.

Ignoring friction, if the the engine is set is motion initially, the reciprocating parts will continue to move indefinitely. No energy is lost bring the pistons to a stop at either end, because the momentum has been transferred to the crank entirely. When the piston is moving again through it's cycle, the crank slows down slightly to give up some momentum to the the piston. Hence the need for a flywheel to smooth out the variations by adding moment of inertia to the crank/flywheel assembly.

The difference in frictional losses from a change in con-rod weight are minimal

Due to lower inertia, a lighter con rod will allow the engine to spin-up/down faster, (and higher, all else being constant)

As an empirical point, note that the euro F512M with titanium con rods is rated 440hp vs 428hp non-titanium 512TR - only 12hp more. The compression ratio increased in the M to 10.4 from 10 in the 512TR which explains most of the power difference with an otherwise almost identical engine. However, revving the engine in neutral shows the M spins up noticeably faster.

Back to the 488VS....

 

Wrong.

 

just came across this interesting post today.

https://www.autoblog.com/2018/01/21/ferrari-488-gtb-leaked-presentation/

 

It seems to recycle some information from here however, with some potential inaccuracies - I do not believe dealers have sent their lists of names to Ferrari, the process being initially expected to be the other way round as I understand.

For another rumor I heard without having read it yet - the 488 VS will have the highest official power of its class, meaning it should exceed the claimed 720 PS of the Mc 720S (it may still be lower than the actual power of the 720S, which I suspect is higher...)

 

How does a link to a story/post without new information (which like most of the links since Thursday only regurgitates that which was already here) count as 'interesting' ?

 

So I was chatting to my UK dealer today regarding the 488 VS and he confirmed that Ferrari has indeed specified some criteria for ownership, or the allocation process.
Firstly - Involvement in the Challenge race series
Ownership of a GTC ( They think they have wiggle room on this one to include ownership of a 488)
Ownership of a 458 Speciale and importantly not having sold it in the first 2 years of ownership.

I am not saying that not meeting these criteria will preclude one getting a 488 VS but I thin one will be at the back of the line compared to others who do meet the criteria.
He also indicated that the final LE cars will be some sort of taylor made cars that will probably be offered to participants in the Challenge series.

Orders will be getting firmed up within the next 2 weeks - so get your deposits ready!

 

Score 0/2 for me!

 

Tim - I think you might fall in the VIP category after your fantastic TDF handover thread!
I am 2 out of 3 in the criteria - so lets see what happens if it comes it comes, if not life's too short to worry about it.

 

I wonder if my running back in 2000/2001 counts?!!

 

Can't belive after all those years of proving contrary people still belive in something of a alocation crtieria.

There are only 2 rules:
You can meet all of them and you still dont recive alocation.
You can meet none pf them and you still can get alocation.
It only depends on how the HQ thinks x number of cars alocated to y number of clients can do best for the brand.
And sometimes depends on how well Ferrari knows you, or how well the dealer knows ferrari, a d how mucj the dealer wants to make you happy or ferrari to make the dealer happy.

The dealllers are inventing these rules to sell some cars that they cant move and that Ferrari gives them a bitt forced.

 

I guess that's good for Cartu...

 

If that's true, I'll be getting mine some time next week I have a Speciale since 2014, I have 488 Challenge and have been racing in Challenge Series for 3 years

 

I ask my dealer the same question over and over for 6 months and he is 100% consistent: Must own a 488. Even as late as Monday this week - again same answer. This might be geo dependent and Ferrari in a particular geo dependent but try as I may he has not changed his answer.

 

FYI, someone leaked slides from the dealer meeting in Maranello. I’m not going to post them here but a lot of questions answered. Maybe this is old news?

 

They were posted on page 65 by MuratC. Every article around took them from this thread.

 

I knew they had to be in here but clearly I didn't go back far enough. Thanks.

 

Does it have one for sale? Just by pure coincidence?

 

There are Factory criteria and dealer criteria. One is imposed, the other is selective.

 

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Regarding the US, I had a very serious and involved discussion about a "GTO" allocation with "Sparky" (pictured below with his insider pal from the Factory), and he told me the determining factor was how many "likes" you had on FChat. The rest is nonsense!

 

Agreed. Juvenile drama.

 

Back in with a shot!

 

Sounds like made up stuff by your dealer especially GTC ownership what in the world is that gotta do with buying the 488VS
I never had an FF and got the very first 458 Speciale I never had a 456 and got a Challenge Stradale - I had a 612 and they
never gave me a Scuderia

 

It's very simple. What model is struggling in the UK? Answer Lusso.