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  1. Prancing 12

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    From what I can tell, there were a total of 15 white Carrera GTs produced (13 in Carrera white, and one each in Sand white and Grand-Prix white).

    It may never be too late, but I can say with some certainty that acquiring a white car now will cost more than just "a little" more ;)

    As a driver's car, the cost to purchase a 'normal' colored CGT is probably the best buy in the supercar world. From a collectible stand point the more rare and PTS colored cars are generally priced in the stratosphere.

    The CGT wears white very well.
     
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  2. joe sackey

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    Please, send me all the relevant details.
     
  3. mikesufka

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    White CGT would be a dream car ...

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    Too many commitments already in the pipeline, Lusso in March/April then GT2RS and have to replace my daily driver soon (S8 Plus will be out of warranty).
    On top of it, all new landscaping for the new construction I just moved in (a very nice Carrera GT just for the green stuff).:rolleyes:
     
  7. mikesufka

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    We'll have to get lucky and see a picture of this new house :)

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  8. Prancing 12

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    Priorities, man!

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  9. GuyIncognito

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    move to the desert. rocks for landscaping = CGT for you.

    :)
     
  10. rdefabri

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    Same. Not a huge Porsche fan, but would give up a non-essential body part for one. Love them!!!
     
  11. Sterling Sackey

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    I think that's part of the CGT "lore," it is universally loved by all car enthusiasts regardless of their brand preferences!
     
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    #37 geno berns, Jan 25, 2018
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    Sterling there is a post on the car where a few folks stated that the car looks like a pick up truck due to it's cut-off rear portion of the greenhouse and called it ugly. I don't see it and IMO it's a unique, appealing and an unmistakable design. There are elements of the design every where including under the rear bonnet that I find interesting and different from other Supercars. This is before you get into the engineering and where the concept Porsche was clearly after was achieved with an amazing and rarely before and an unlikely a repeatable result. IMO if you re-badge the car and show it to the most experienced car enthusiast before the car was introduced, they would never think it's a Porsche.

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  13. Sterling Sackey

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    Every car under the sun has detractors and critics, I'm sure there are those who would argue that a 250 GTO is not worth the money because it's slower and less advanced than a modern 488. My comment refers to REAL enthusiasts who know what to look for in a car. :)
     
  14. PineChris

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    White CGT is perfection. I prefer the yellow calipers on the red CGT.
     
  15. joe sackey

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    Indeed.

    It's a benchmark Supercar which will never be repeated, automotive lightning in a bottle.

    Here's another PTS color.

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    Finally!!! Looking forward to a proper Carrera GT thread. Thanks for taking on the initiative.
     
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    #42 Sterling Sackey, Jan 25, 2018
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    Looks like Signal Yellow!

    Here's another white example with the unique paint-matched wheels option (option code GCB - "Wheels Painted in Ext. Color"):

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    Thanks Chris!
     
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    #44 Sterling Sackey, Jan 25, 2018
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    Oversteer ahead! One of the main criticisms of the Carrera GT is its tendency for oversteer, however this can be largely solved via two methods:

    1. The most important and effective solution that can be performed on every Carrera GT is switching the factory adjustable rear anti-roll bar to the "Soft" setting (CGTs were delivered from the factory on the "Medium" setting). This increases grip at the rear in relation to the front, thus reducing oversteer to a fairly dramatic degree. The Nurburgring video I posted earlier in this thread shows how the car handles when on the "Soft" setting (read: confidently and without worry even at high track speeds!).

    2. Fitting fresh tires. Michelin Pilot Super Sports are the usual choice, Porsche even released a factory approved "N0" version of this tire in 2013. Many Carrera GTs have fairly old tires (such as the 9-year old tires on the car in Paul Walker's fatal crash) which harden and lose grip significantly as time goes on. The original equipment PS2 tires were also often old when "new," since Michelin only made batches every few years.

    Hopefully this clears up some misconceptions related to the oversteer debate on this car!

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  20. rmolke85

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    I wont take credit, but I hope my whispers for a proper thread helped spur this on.... Its what I believe to be automotive perfection. Possibly the pinnacle of the whole supercar thing. Theres just nothing similar and never will be again.

    The most striking thing to me about this car is how everyone says its just analogue and very simple. Yes this is true from ten feet away, its a shift it yourself NA car. But look inside and the engineering behind the car is so far ahead of anything else its just not close. I think its a tour de force for innovation and technology far surpassing the 918 959 ect. The gearbox alone is a marvel. If you see one out for a major service look at the linkage play. Its beautiful. And you could say that about much of the parts under the skin. The whole car is a show.

    Oh and you want to talk about fit and finish? Look at an Enzo next to a CGT and lets discuss. Its the difference between a Patek and a Casio.... Maybe not that stark but you get it.

    One thing we should discuss is who first penned this beauty, incorporating all of porsche history into one body. Cues of 550 spyder, 917, 911s its all in there. Grant Larson, or Jason Hill?? Hills original 1999 sketch evidently moved to a 1/4 model to be refined. Both are from art center of design, but I think Hill's sketch really could be the origin for the car as we know its shape today. Anyone know more about this?


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    Everyone wants to talk about the clutch but the Transmission is also bespoke


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    The extremely severe requirements with regard to the overall concept of the car excluded the installation of a standard transmission. In order to cope with the specific boundary conditions in terms of input torque, wheelbase, aerodynamics and center-of-gravity level, a completely new transmission was developed for the Carrera GT. It was decided to use a transverse transmission with integrated engine oil tank and cyclone separator for oil foam suppression. With this concept, the masses are concentrated at the center of gravity while providing space enough for the installation of a aerodynamic diffusor across the entire width of the car. Due to the need to use a clutch as compact as possible, the Carrera GT does not come with a two-mass flywheel – but the function of such a flywheel is provided nevertheless by the special design of the input shafts: the first main shaft is hollow, with a long and thin full shaft running inside as a spring rod. Together with the mass weight of the angle drive the two shafts acting as a torsion spring serve to absorb possible jolts coming from the engine, reducing transmission noise in the process.
     
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  22. Sterling Sackey

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    Excellent and thoughtful posts Richard. Will have to look into the design questions...
     
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  23. joe sackey

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    Two great posts Rich, and, please do take some credit, "The whole car is a show", I like that.
     
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  24. rmolke85

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    Joe I hear the white ones are fastest..... mind you this car has it’s original exhaust on so it’s stock.

    216 MPH!!!!!

     
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    Production Ends On Porsche Carrera GT: The Most Successful Supercar In History

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    An offshoot of Porsche’s racing program and a technological tour de force, the 605-horsepower Carrera GT is a carbon-fibered symphony of speed.

    ATLANTA, May 9, 2006 – The manufacture of the most successful supercar in history has come to an end. Production of the Carrera GT at Porsche’s facility in Leipzig, Germany, concluded on Saturday, May 6, 2006, bringing to a close the latest series in a line of ultra-exclusive and ultra-performing automobiles from Porsche.

    In its brief production run, and befitting its ethereal performance, the award-winning Carrera GT was named “Best Dream Car 2004” by Road & Track magazine, and “Best Dream Machine” by the popular MotorWeek television program in 2005. “Even a short ride in this carbon-fiber wonder-car will spoil you for the rest of your life,” said MotorWeek host John Davis. “The Carrera GT is the best motivation to get rich that we’ve ever driven.”

    Even in an economic climate that did not favor products in this segment of the market, Porsche’s V-10 powered supercar has sold in unprecedented numbers. More than 1,270 Carrera GTs have been sold since its introduction in late 2003. To date, 604 have found homes in North America. This figure represents a greater number than the total production of the McLaren F1, Ferrari Enzo, and Pagani Zonda models combined.

    The Carrera GT is a storied member in a line of limited edition supercars, a lineage born from Porsche’s experience at the highest levels of world-class endurance racing. The Carrera GT owes its product modeling as an exclusive, racing-derived, ultra-high-performance roadcar to Porsche’s first supercar, the 959. Storming the world automotive stage at the Frankfurt Auto Show in 1985, the 959 was intended for “Group B” racing competition, and served as Porsche’s technology flagship—a rolling paradigm of automotive performance from which future models could draw even loftier benchmarks.

    The Carrera GT supercar also had its genesis in the racing program, but instead became a street-only machine. The Carrera GT evolved from a 5.5-liter V-10 engine program originally developed for endurance competition. Enlarged to 5.7-liters for the production car, the naturally aspirated Carrera GT’s V-10 produces 605 (SAE) horsepower at 8,000 rpm, and this power is routed through a production car first—Porsche’s Ceramic Composite Clutch (PCCC®). Only 6.65 inches (169mm) in diameter, the race-caliber clutch easily handles the Carrera GT’s prodigious output while allowing the entire powertrain to sit lower in the chassis, dropping the center of gravity for even sharper handling.

    The Carrera GT’s wide use of cutting edge materials prompted Popular Science magazine in 2003 to name the exotic machine the “Best of What’s New” for its advanced technology and chassis development. The Carrera GT’s monocoque chassis is constructed from bonded layers of carbon fiber tissue, resin, and aluminum and plastic honeycomb materials that are incredibly light, but strong. The entire chassis weighs just over 220 pounds (100 kg), and is mated to equally esoteric materials including forged magnesium wheels, and the staggering 380mm Porsche Ceramic Composite Brakes (PCCB®).

    Thanks to near fanatical attention to weight savings, the performance results are stunning. The Carrera GT will accelerate from a standing start to 62 mph (100 km/h) in only 3.9 seconds, at which point, things really get going. The 99 mph (160 km/h) mark arrives in less than seven seconds, 124 mph (200 km/h) in under 10 seconds, and the Carrera GT can achieve a top test-track speed of 205 mph (330 km/h). Despite the otherworldly performance, the Carrera GT is still one of few supercars that can be driven every day. Traction control, air conditioning, GPS navigation, a Bose audio system, and a fitted, 5-piece, matched-leather luggage set are standard equipment. The Porsche Carrera GT first went on sale in North America on January 31, 2004, and pricing for this ultimate Porsche supercar is $440,000 (USD).
     
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