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Miura, the original supercar

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  1. joe sackey

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    Consigned 30.11.68. Do you mean converted from a P400 (or P400S?) to SVJ and then to SVR?
     
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    Yes, I mean P400 > SVJ > SVR.

    I never knew about the SVJ part.
     
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    Where did this info come from, Joe. The story previously was that the car was converted from its original form to SVR? Does the plate MI U10542 identify it as 3781?
     
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    This is from the car's owner Heinz Steber himself, he owned it as an SVJ (those are his images), then he took it back to the factory circa 1975 and convinced Remo Vecchi to make it an SVR.
     
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    Thanks, Joe. I wonder if he thought he was going to be getting a Jota 5084 replica when he got the car originally converted to SVJ?
     
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    Not sure, that said he was very hands-on with the SVR project.
     
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    I don’t think so as they are in London (and have been for some time).


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    I still think so. They even got the same chassis number; #3967 and #4515!
     
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    Lel is correct. These 2 Miura are both ex. Adam carolla cars (#3967 and #4515) . He replaced them by a genuine SV he bought at RM Auction Arizona in Jan 2016 (#4912)
     
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    So many Miura ownership lessons to be learned here.
     
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    Like what ?
     
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    One good lesson learned by a few is, if you like the looks and specification of an SV, and think you'd like to own one, buy a genuine SV, rather than try and modify an earlier variant to look like one. Nobody will be convinced the converted car is an SV, and you'll tire of answering the obvious questions "is it a real SV?" followed immediately by "why did you convert the P400?" (or P400S). IMO a Miura that has been converted to an SV is worth even less than the car it was converted from because of the cost to put it back. This SV-lookalike story never ends well, there's just no upshot, and ultimately the ownership experience is not enjoyed long-term.

    Another lesson learned now that the cars have become as valuable as they are, is, if you are going to go to the not inconsiderable expense of restoring a Miura, consider restoring it to original livery and specification. This'll result in much more ownership satisfaction, it'll be a nod of respect towards the car's original artisans, and it'll be worth more, the latter an indisputable fact.

    One more lesson learned is, the earlier variants, the P400 and P400S, are very special iterations of the Miura in their own right, and they are becoming very sought after and appreciated for what they are in recent times. Giampaolo Dallara recently purchased and restored a fabulous P400, to underscore this point.
     
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    Joe is 100% right. Each of the 3 varients are special in their own way and with so few Miuras made it's not a car that should be modified like one would do by making a clone Shelby Mustang. Respect the original design.
     
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