Miura, the original supercar

I judged this car last Sunday when it was on display as part of Classic Sports Sunday at Mar-a-Lago. It would benefit from a ground-up restoration. It needs everything! One unusual feature is the translucent rear louvers, as opposed to painted metal. Will post photos soon.

 

Also thought of this bad reputated example, but then somebody would have restored the frame to the correct black instead of glossy red.

 

Yes! Contrary to a few stories circulating now... I found the car in a barn and brought it to Miami prior to purchasing our former Miura SV.

We sold the car to former NHL Hockey Player.

 

BTW. The louvers were done very well. They looked like a dealer application, potentially the distributor at the time... They were not factory and no proof of factory application.

 

You're right, on one Picture you can see the formerly overpainted VIN plate:
http://www.lutziger-classiccars.ch/autobilder/1462-lamborghini-Miura-P400-S-1969-Rot54_34.jpg

 

Yes, Raymond, I've noticed it. The VIN plate is not totally clean, but is now readable again, looking like its original VIN Plate.
But what is mad, is that from the red painted VIN plate status that you are mentionning to the current status at Luziger, their was an intermediate one: with black paint applied over the red paint !...
(and I've seen they've now removed its typicall optional radio previously located between the seats back rests ; on another hand, the Air-Cond type passenger-side dashboard is still there, despite it is a non A-C equipped car ...)

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I'm aware of another Miura equiped with these plexi louvres : Miura P400 #3396
(Strange also that #3802 has a missing front bumper ?...)
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Wow! They are identical in make. Interesting... The plot thickens...

Yes, the second owner bumped the front at one point and took off the front bumper to get it straightened. It was sadly lost.

 

What is the story with the engine from 3781 which is said to be in 4302? Is the engine now in 3781 the one the factory modified increasing its power when they converted it to SVR?

 

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Great Delta S4 in the background!

 

I’m not a fan of the gloss slats.


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Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login On a visit to Daniel Donovan Classics today, a very warm welcome from Danny himself (thanks) and a beautiful arancio Miura S (although I’m not sure about the dark grey wheels or steering wheel for some reason).
Question - how common is the practice of resetting odometers to 0 following restorations? It seems to undermine a cars history in my mind even if the car is as good as new (if not better).


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Do the SV size wheels hit the inners of the wheel wells on non SV Miuras?

 

Not sure of the chassis number sorry and yes it is on Avons.


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Btw, I currently have an Alfa 33 Daytona Longtail in untouched (!!!) condition on offer....

 

Yes, I confirm that 9 inches rear SV wheels would fit perfectly under a Miura or a Miura S rear body. It's what I've personally verified on my P400S, and also on many others P400 / P400S.
Mostly equipped with non-standard rear tyres Michelin XWX 225/70VR15 (size never specified on a Miura at the time...but Michelin also never produced the correct rear SV size : 255/60VR15) or with the genuine original P400SV size : 255/60VR15, either in the original - the only correct - Pirelli CN12 specs , or various other tyres used during the period where these CN12 were NLA . Tyres mostly dedicated for SUV cars, with uncorrect speed-rating : BF-Goodrich, Toyo Tyres, Pirelli scorpions, etc... and all with odd - off-road looking - thread pattern, strange on a Miura....

AVON never produced the correct rear SV tyre size, only smaller or bigger, and with a characteristic square shape (shoulders...) : 240/60VR15, 275/55VR15, 295/50VR15 - I've personally never tested these AVON tyres on 9" rims at the rear on any Miura P400 or P400S. So, I'd say I don't know (even if I've seen P400/S Miuras equipped that way)

But keep in mind that all this doesn't work any more in case, in addition to the 9" rear SV wheels on your Miura P400 or P400S (originally equipped with 7" wheels) , you decide to add the rear SV suspension improvement (based on modified Espada type suspension arms...) , now adding an additional 1,5" per side, this will definitely no longer work with the 2" wider SV rims and your original P400/P400S rear fenders.
And yes, in such a situation, the tyres will do more that hit the inner of the wheels wells....

 

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Oh yes, I forgot to mention it.
FYI, this orange - still French-Registered - Miura P400S @ DD Classics UK is #3964 (VIN plate obviously restamped here...)

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