Will be nice as long as we embrace it. It's not like they 'll stop being sportscars.
The body shape will have the new Ferrari family look from the nose to the side aero sculpting to the rear with two pairs of tail lights. There is the potential for a special edition V12 model with the new platform. Just like the Portofino got a V8 so will the 408 for lack of a better name. Then they could do that V12 special edition and call it the 512 with a smaller motor than the current product...
Yes, that's what I'm saying with the set-up I mentioned. We shall see - it's a 2019 car so we have more than a year of this!!!
Hard to believe, as it has never happened before. Also makes no sense as it would cannibalise the traditional V12s.
I think the new platform which will be shared by Portofino and 488 replacement (and 812 replacement ?) is one of the things that makes new car so important/exciting. My understanding is that it would be possible to put a V12 in Portofino as well. So if that is right both front and mid engined models could have V6tt,V8 or V12.
I agree but I think more focused "specials" and limited production runs make it more likely that interesting combinations might appear.
NO cannibals here. There is a finite number of V12 motors that can be produced from current capacity and they are all sold. The only question is do they go into a 400k USD (insert GBP at the current rate here> XXXk ) Ferrari FE version or a 650k ME version of the same platform. LaFerrari for the masses, relatively speaking.
For some reasons, the Pista seems to have a little bit of resemblance of the 488 Mansory Siracussa (apart from the two side wings at the rear end). In other words, the Pista doesn't seem to be that far off from the 488. Perhaps the 488 replacement will take it to the next level.
I believe we are arriving at a crossroads. Power simply cannot keep going up and up, sure it can in a way but what we land up with are ever less usable cars. How long can you keep your foot down in a 488 on a public road? The answer isn't long, even down here in lightly policed roads. In my view the focus now needs to be on weight rather than more power, on sound rather than more power, on creating an distinct driving experience.
There is some merit to this I think, they proved a V12 could fit in a 458 so......though I suspect if they did a semi volume run V12 mid engine car there is a worry the halo model would be such a halo model anymore.
I said "sportscar" mate; I think the Portofino is a GT. Also the 812 is a real front-mid engined supercar, not a GT. It can perform both roles just as well, but it's not dedicated GT.
Well, the new car Marchionne hinted at a few weeks ago needs to answer those concerns (and I think it will given his words), but all in all I still believe the HP will go up for in the V8 sportscar segment.
Since Ferrari has patented an electrical turbo, iI can’t wait to see it! Why not introduce it on the sharpest spear? The clientele of their mid rear sports car care intensely about engine music. Portofino and Lusso buyers less so. A few less decibels aren’t deal breakers for that crowd. So I am hoping it will still be an 8 , but a 6 with an unadultered exhaust might still sound as sweet or even sweeter than the 488 And of course Ferrari will love the HP and torque and performance game forward. Thy need to even if some FChatter say that the cars are already too fast. Race teams are competing with the mid rear cars at Le Mans and IMSA and winning!
I have several patents including several international ones. You are right —many patents never see the light of day. However, that is usually because the invention cannot be realized in a way which produces a commercially successful product. The dual clutch transmission is a perfect example. The inventor was a French engineer who came up with the idea in the 1940s, if memory serves correctly. It took nearly half a century for manufacturing technology to catch up to be able to produce a working commercially viable product. But then the idea needed to be able to withstand the passage of time and still remain relevant given the opportunity of other ideas which could have superseded his original invention! Most revolutionary or what venture capitalists refer to as “disruptive” ideas are often ahead of their time.
So from SM's statements we know the 488 replacement will be hybrid. Question,therefore,seems to be hybrid and normally aspirated or hybrid and turbo ? I am not in the slightest bit technical.What are the advantages and disadvantages of one over the other if an electric motor is incorporated ?
