I do not. Some of the mules had exposed. Others here may have that info.
The CF wheels are made down the road here in Geelong, just outside of Melbourne (http://www.carbonrev.com/). They are also supplying the CF wheels to Ford for the GT and Mustang Shelby GT350R. Given their use on the GT350R for the last coupe of years, and that Ford committed again to use them for the new GT, I am assuming they are the best CF wheel manufacturers in the world right now. Apparently Ferrari have been rigorously testing their wheels for several years before recently agreeing to supplier status on the Pista.
Great spy shots! Maybe its just a trick of camera angle but the red camo car looks to be riding slightly higher than the yellow camo car? Possible slightly different suspension set ups? Will the Pista have the optional front lift system do we know? Sent from my iPad using FerrariChat.com mobile app
Almost certainly but I do not understand why people put it on a lightweight car.Adds quite a lot of weight. I was told at Ferrari put suspension setting in Race for speed humps etc and you don't really need it.I have had Speciale without lifter for 4 years and 10,000 miles.Never once needed it !
What effect does putting it in race do over sport setting? Haven’t heard of this before. For me its all about ground clearance getting on and off the driveway.... Sent from my iPad using FerrariChat.com mobile app
Because suspension is stiffened in Race there is not so much movement so less likely to "bottom out ". If you keep car somewhere where even at the lowest speed possible it will not clear the entrance/exit then you should get one but personally I'd change where I stored the car !
My car was fully functioning most of the time it was in my possession and I even spent time at VIR with my 488 functioning 100%, I had issues prior to track weekend, and then a few months later. The 488 was great on track, zero reason to say otherwise. I do not feel the 570s is far behind it and Mclaren remains a new company at this and the 570s is considered a sports series car not a even a super car. So my point is a car that is much cheaper and a level below in category is right with the 488. Again if I had bias it would be to the Ferrari, ill never "dream" I own a Mclaren, I "dreamed" of Ferrari most of my life even after I have had 2 and sold both. But I guess I am not drinking the koolaid some are. First brake issue my car developed a rotational noise. It started very quiet, only once you have driven say 15-20 miles, not even hard, just normal driving it would do this. To me sounded like warped rotor. You could even watch the tire temps abnormally rise in the 2 wheels with this issue (both fronts). Dealer was told about it and couldn't duplicate it (turns out they would just drive it around the block and no heat would be in the brakes so no noise). No issue as at the time it was pretty mild. Second visit to the dealer on this issue was a couple months later and the issue was so loud that people near me could hear it all around the car when I was driving. I had to take a video to get them to accept something wasn't right. Sent it to the dealer, dealer had the car for a month as Ferrari had them doing all types of things to fix this. Sand pads, install again, clean rotors, install again, test, test, test. Few hundred miles put on the car and it was fully apart all brakes and pads off the car over 5 times and several more times individually. Every time they would still have the issue. In the end the dealer replaced all 4 sets of pads to get the sound to stop. I get the car back no issues for 4 months roughly. The brakes started to get another rotational noise, really quiet. I thought I was making it up in my head again so dismissed it the first time I noticed it. The next day I took the car to our favorite road and we were coming off a straight at 140mph hard braking into a hard left in the mountains. Hit the brakes, nothing happens. Literally nobody was home. I hit them again hard and pump once and I got what i felt like was 15-20% of the braking back so I stood on them I had to down shift very hard and nearly lost the front end as hard I was turning but the car grabbed some how and we got through it. A few minutes later the cars brakes where OK again feel wise but wicked rotational noise at that point, worse than the first time. I was done, zero confidence in that car at that point, so it had to go. Keep in mind a few months prior to both brake issues my car actually had a small fire in it out of no where in the battery compartment. The module on top of the battery of the car shorted out and created some type of a problem with the cars battery and ground and the battery imploded (not exploded). Car was fully repaired the dealer claimed. But who knows what electronics could have been damaged. The car let me know this was all happening as the car alarm went off at 3am in the morning one Sunday in my garage. When the battery died before I could get to the car (I sleep just a few feet from it) I knew something was really up. In the end Ferrari didn't seem to care about me as a customer and I was done with that car.
I think the Pista looks good as long as you don't extend the stripe onto the front splitter as that just spoils/interrupts the design flow
Although the brake supplier is a well known OEM supplier, supplying most other brands also, the issues you describe are no fun at all. All brands have their stories - McLaren, Mercedes, BMW, Lamborghini, yes, even Porsche (some would say especially Porsche). Nevertheless, it is understandable that it influences your view - we can only speak as we find - so fair enough. It is not the norm though and I have had 8 Ferraris, with the later ones being bullet-proof in terms of reliability (I do about 10k miles pa across a fleet of about 2-3 F cars). The 360 and 430 were more fragile than the 458, 488, Cali and FF. I had a pretty good experience in my Mac, but electronic gremlins and an expensive issue with the front lid made it less than perfect. Only issue I have had with Speciale, 488 Spider, Cali and FF were a blown tyre valve on the Cali (actually a BMW part...) and the normal battery issue on the FF. The Speciale and 488 have about 10k miles between them and have had no issues at all. I put about 30k hard miles totally on those four cars so far (by 'hard' I mean high engine speeds, high cornering and braking speeds are a very regular thing, except for the FF). So it's not just Koolaid. Sorry to hear of your troubles though.
Again I am not sure how much more clear I can be, if I have a bias it would be the Ferrari. Of course we can find trouble in every brand at one time or another. I would never suggest otherwise. Not even close. I had 7k miles on my 488 in 9-10 months. 3 major issues, couple minor ones. I put 8k miles on my 458 in about that same time frame and had 1 minor issue (headlight went out, cost 10k with its replacement/annual service). The dealer while they had my car fixing the headlight did a annual service and bled the brakes, trouble is they left the bleeder open. White car with brown stains on the paint later isn't something that makes you happy, they had my car about a month fixing that issue as well, not really a reliability issue but the dealer is part of this experience.
I started a thread about it in the 488 section: https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/avh-failure-resulting-in-locked-brakes.553009/#post-145396745
This issue was nothing like mine, see https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/avh-failure-resulting-in-locked-brakes.553009/#post-145396745 but equally as dangerous. The difference I see is that mine was obviously some electronic bug, while yours could have been the dealer not bleeding the system correctly with so many r&r's. Mine made me lose confidence in the entire braking system, because although the ECU was replaced, who's to say that every 488 ECU will not do the same thing under xyz conditions, which they can't fix bc they don't know what they are?
You had an awful experience. If it happened to me I would feel the same way you feel. Having said that, your experience is unusual. I've had no issues with my 488 GTB and I'm hoping that continues.
My sales contact says it will be available as an option. I use my lift regularly so would get it on Pista for sure even if it adds some kilos. Gt2rs also has it standard I see. Some cars just need it.
Not saying you didn't have good enough reason to sell 488 and shift to the mac camp. That experience would have pissed anyone off. I had a similar experience with receiving a lack of service with my usual brand (Porsche) which pushed me to investigate Ferrari and Mac. Prior too I never imagined buying either and it was only after the testing of these two that I made a shift. Whilst I would agree 570 isn't far behind in lap time or in a speed sense I can definitely say after driving both if someone offered me the keys to make a choice for a day on the track I'd take the 488. It just feels more robust and better to drive... sounds better too - not discounting 570s's ability. And re the brakes of all these cars, the 991TS ceramics are unquestionable better than both the F and M cars.....just feel better - (more confidence inspiring at the limit) - more initial bite (hot or cold). Gotta hand that P car one thing - everything works - so solid - hence why I still have it.
