It would be nice if next car will have NA V8 + electric motor, that's work really good in 918 but how much power Ferrari can get from V8 NA? How big this engine would be? 4 liter like in GT3 RS?
@Triflux Well, he said that the Portofino was the one incarnation of this product portofolio developed for people who don't want 700-800ps to play with. The other one was the Lusso. Next step, according to Marchionne, is to further expand this segment and bring in customers that, historically speaking, weren't and aren't part of the Ferrari's clientele. One could easily think of the Dino project; however, as far as I know, that has been put on hold and might never see the light. So my guess would be another iteration of the Portofino with a different body design. Sorry for the off-topic.
The risk here is something along the lines of what AM have been doing for 20 years, all the same basic car with next to no product differentiation. Admittedly Ferrari might at least have different styling but engine wise something new would be needed, there is only so much that can be done to differentiate the V8 in the Lusso from the V8 in the 488 etc. I am not really too convinced the engine feels noticeably different in either car.
Thanks. Interesting that they patented that (didn't read the details of the claims) but similar is being done in F1, by other manufacturers and ultimately will be up to the turbo supplier to provide the "productionized" technology/design.
True. Case in point, the pneumatic valve spring for road cars: https://patents.google.com/patent/US8424499B2/en
Article form Car Mag UK Gotcha! It's 2019's new Ferrari 588 - and there'll be a V6 this time too Published: 31 March 2017 Image Unavailable, Please Login A test mule for 2019's Ferrari F588 Image Unavailable, Please Login It's the next-level Ferrari 488 GTB Image Unavailable, Please Login We spied the new Ferrari prototype testing in Sweden Image Unavailable, Please Login Cut-about Ferrari 458 Italia test hack spied by CAR Image Unavailable, Please Login Maranello is developing a V6 sports car Image Unavailable, Please Login Bi-turbo V6 for new 'Dino' baby supercar More info on Ferrari 488 GTB ► Ferrari F588 scooped in the wild ► It's the replacement for 488 GTB ► Due in 2019 - with V6 version! We've been digging around for information about this secret new Ferrari prototype our spy photographers caught recently. And we're pretty sure it's the new F588 - essentially the replacement for the 488 GTB range. CAR's sources indicate the next iteration is due in 2019, four years after the entry-level V8 supercar was launched. Sounds about right to us. And the big news is there will be a V6 version this time, too... Remember the Dino we've scooped previously? It's happening, folks. What's new on the 2019 Ferrari F588? Rather a lot, as designated by the new model name. Ferrari has a long history of flip-flopping between clean-sheet new models and heavy modifications, as it cycles model ranges over two generations to amortise development costs. Image Unavailable, Please Login As the 488 GTB is essentially an upgraded 458, it's time for a new model based on the company's latest modular platform. The F588 project is therefore a next-gen model and our spies caught this prototype winter-testing in Scandinavia ahead of a planned launch in 2019. V6 power is coming to the junior Ferrari, you say? You'd better believe it. Ferrari is working hard on a multi-engine strategy, as it's forced to squeeze down emissions and boost the mpg of its supercars. Hence the new 2.9-litre V6 engine planned for its 'entry-level' supercar. Our sources in Maranello suggest that the V6 model could be a short-wheelbase model, effectively splitting the GTB range into two. Image Unavailable, Please Login In that regard, it echoes the approach taken with the GTC4 Lusso shooting brake range, now available with V12 or V8 power - depending upon your performance needs and depth of pockets. Expect the V6 SWB to be positioned as a separate model, however. Whether or not the Dino name will be used remains unknown... How powerful is the new Ferrari V6? Our sources suggest the bi-turbo V6 will develop up to 600bhp, enough to distinguish it from the Alfa Romeo 2.9 which is - ultimately - related to the new Ferrari powerplant. And the V8 destined for the 588 is said to be capable of 680bhp, or 720bhp in focused Challenge/Stradale versions. And that's before a hybrid electric pack is bolted on, potentially adding a further 150bhp should the e-Ferrari be given the nod.
According to Alberto LP, V6 power will be much higher than 600 hp, the car will be hybrid, with electric motors on front wheels, thus a 4WD on demand, with an overall power figure similar to LAF, likely about 1000 PS. Not sure how they will arrang the V8, if they reach this power with a V6 hybrid, likley V8 will remain only on SUV/GTC/Portofino cars, Or, on LaF successor.
1000 PS on the 488 replacement? The number is already crazy in itself but that would also mean 1100 on the 812 successor and 1200 or more on the next halo. That's not very believable.
Bear in mind that the article was published nearly 1 year ago. Most of the info still seems to be right aside from the dates (more like 2020 for the replacement wasn't it?) but it's probable that the spy car in the pictures was the mule for the 488 Pista.
If indeed there's a V6, it will be there primarily because of its optimized size, and therefore weight and packaging advantages, so I doubt they would compromise the packaging benefits of a V6 with a V8 option.
I think they could - the V8 does not have the historic value of the V12 for Ferrari; so for the "entry-level" cars they could go for a more efficient solution. A 4-cylinder engine would be a step too far, but a 6 is possible I guess. BMW gave up the straight six which was once their defining engine technology...
I hope not, but you can't stop progress/evolution/pollution laws, etc. If they do a V6 would be nice if they would do something unique compared to all the 90 deg V6's out there. A 60 deg engine (or 65, so half the V12) would probably sound better than a 90 deg. The Alfa GTV6 comes to mind. Or something crazy like the 120 deg V with turbo inside the V like the 1981 F1, but probably not best for packaging ;-)
They'll do both V-6 & V-8 the goal is to increase sales with expanded range of models and market segments
Three things I believe 1) lower price 2) these things are too fast anyway. 600 HP is enough for city driving 3) better fuel economy and emissions which Ferrari may need in some countries. Remember that Ferrari made the 208 GTB for the Italian market because of tax issues. I can see them seeing they need this as an alternative to a V8. The Ford GT broke the V8 mold. Others will follow Some of these V6's will leak over in an detuned version to Alfa Romeo and Maserati.
I can agree with everything besides 'lower price" what is goal? make Ferrari affordable for middle class? sale as many cars as porsche or maserati?
I’m sure the next car will be over $300k like the Mac 720. I’m guessing a lot of dealers are looking for a lower cost version, also like Mac has. I don’t see this as a negative. It’s just different.
The question is why SHOULD it be called Dino? Call it a Dino does not necessarily make it a Dino. Same story with the California name. Anyway why would Ferrari want to sell the car under a brand is which obviously weaker? That would only make sense if they want to reach massive growth numbers and fear to dilute the Ferrari brand with that.
