What does this aeroplane propellor fit?

I have had this propeller for many years hanging from the ceiling in my hallway. i bought it because I liked it and had no idea what it was originally fitted to.
Can anyone here identify it please. Just that curiosity has now got the better of me.
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Maybe you can find it here:

http://www.woodenpropeller.com/index.html

 

Or here:
http://www.notplanejane.com/about-npj-collection.htm

 

Many thanks Michael, I have contacted both people.
Rgds
Phil

 

What do the tips look like?

 

It looks like a Beech-Roby

 

Could be...

http://www.notplanejane.com/beechcraft.htm

 

I used to see those on Bonanzas and Bellanca Cruisairs. Maybe Republic Seabees, too.

 

I took the propeller down from its location hanging from my hall ceiling this morning. I needed help because it was heavy! I found the following markings on it.

On the round part of the hub

Blade No1 RA13513

74165 then what looks like a military arrow then 92612

On the part of the hub nearest a blade

Type No R30/242

Serial No 91581



The length from tip to tip is 250cm and a blade at its widest point is 27cm.

I have enclosed better pictures and you can see it is a spline fitting.

I contacted both the experts that wrxmike posted (many thanks) and both came back needing more info which I sent them this morning.
If anyone can now shed more light on it then I would be very grateful
Thanks
Phil
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Phil. When I saw your first pictures I was not sure that the blades were originally fitted to that hub. The blades look like WW1/1920s era but the hub looks later. I am prepared to be told otherwise by the experts though as I am certainly not one!

R30/242 is a Dowty Rotol number off an Avro Anson but...

...I am very interested to see what the experts say.

You have certainly acquired some interesting stuff over the years. There was the boating trophy on here not long ago...

 

WW1 props weren't built of thin multiple laminations using the same type of wood. They were built of alternating layers of usually walnut and spruce or some other soft wood. The layers would range from 1/2 inch to 3/4 inch thick and usually were not fitted to a separate hub. The propellor hub was an integral part of the prop. The blade profiles were usually like scimitars and beautifully made. Some German props were more club-like.

 

Bob- Affirmative, I have a Fokker Dr.I Triplane propeller upstairs built for me by Fred Murrin. Need to mount it to a beam in the family room, but have not gotten around to it. Exact replica of an Axial prop.

 

This is what Monte has said today................
Phil,
You have found exactly what you were looking for.
Your blades used to have the black plastic like finish on them also.
Look closely at the metal ferrule on the blades and you will see a layer on the material between the wood and metal,
https://www.ashbyinteriors.co.uk/product/ww11-armstrong-siddeley-cheetah-radial-engine-new-old-stock-inc-propeller/

I will work on the type of aircraft over the weekend.

Have a great day and let me know if you find more info,
Monte

 

So, is that an adjustable pitch prop? Some of the props on the Beechcraft site I posted earlier that look like that have different settings, takeoff, cruise, etc.

 

With again many thanks to Michael (above) who led me in the right direction on who to contact, Monte, one of his recommendations has sent me the following link identifying the prop.


http://www.aviationtransformation.co.uk/armstrong-siddeley-cheetah-propeller/

So it is off an Avro Anson (military version of the plane because of the markings on the hub).

 

The bare wood makes the prop look much older which is why I had wondered if the blades and hub were originally together. In my earlier post I mentioned Dowty Rotol but of course at the time the company that made the prop were just called Rotol. When my father worked there it was Dowty Rotol and I just always put the two together. Early Ansons did not have variable pitch props so this is probably off a later Mk21. A very nice item to have on the wall!

 

I have decided to sell the propeller at an auction in UK later this month. I am selling a whole lot of old guns and swords as well. Anyone care to put a value on it?
All part of an effort to de-clutter some of the tons of stuff I have accumulated over the years.

 

Please post or PM on the swords. 1796/1811 Blucher blades especially.

 

The swords are..............
1912 Cavalry officers sword (2 of the same)
1821 cavalry troopers sword
1897 George 5th Infantry sword
1897 Infantry sword
Masonic sword (I know nothing about it)
Rgds
Phil

 

Cool, replied to your PM, dont wish to derail thread.

 

I have now delved into the history of all the items.

They are as follows.............

Large Second World War Avro Anson Aircraft

propeller - as originally fitted to the Armstrong

Siddley Cheater engine



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First World War 1912 pattern Cavalry Officers'

sword by Henry Wilkinson (no. 51729), with nickel

plated scroll engraved bowl guard and shagreen

grip, the blade etched with J. N. Williamson in

panel and crowned Royal Arms - sharpened for

active service, in field service scabbard


N.B. 2nd Lieutenant J. N. Williamson was granted

an emergency commission in the 2nd Life Guards

Reserve Regiment on 14th March 1916. He was

promoted Lieutenant on 1st July 1917 and served

in France until his discharge in 1919

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First World War 1912 pattern Cavalry Officers'

sword, retailed by Army & Navy Co-operative

Society London, with plated scroll engraved bowl

guard and shagreen grip, etched blade with

Royal Arms in pigskin covered field service

scabbard

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Scarce 1821 pattern Light Cavalry Troopers'

sword with leather covered grip and steel three-

bar hilt, regimental marked - D. 16 / 17 R.A.,

curved fullered blade with maker's Knight's helm

mark for Kirschbaum, Solingen, in steel scabbard




First World War George V 1897 pattern Infantry

Officers' sword with leather knot, etched blade

and pigskin covered field service scabbard

Victorian 1897 pattern Infantry Officers' sword

with crowned VR cipher to guard and etched

blade, retailed by Hawkes & Co. London, in

pigskin covered field service scabbard



Victorian Masonic sword, Indian shield and two

bronze spear-head terminals (4)


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19th century percussion trade pistol with 15 bore

barrel, brass furniture, walnut stock and steel

ramrod, 46cm overall


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19th century Indian percussion three-band

Enfield-type military musket with walnut stock,

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If anyone is interested in any of them please PM me. I have not investigated whether it is possible to send guns, propellers or swords through the postal system to the USA but if anyone is seriously interested i will do so.
Rgds
Phil

 

Interested in the 1821 sword. Sent you a PM. I think FedEx is OK with shipping swords to the USA. Tried to read up on the UK laws for you but most of the links have old info.

 

Just put the following up for sale as well........

https://ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/uk-royal-memorabilia-for-sale.575560/

A lot of historic stuff that I have gathered over the years I have just lost interested in and it is time for a good clear out!

 

James Bond used Wilkinson throwing knives in From Russia with Love. Guess he and his company have been making sharp stuff for a long time. Horrible razor blades, though.