It seems suddenly all 2010/2011 458s are coming up for sale Are people really that afraid of ownership out of maintenance/warranty?
All of them had a 3 year warranty and the 2010 and 2011s never had the 7 year maintenance. That was started in 2012. So, I’d say it has nothing to do with concern over maintenance/warranty and more likely that owners have had those cars long enough to be ready for the next one. The 458 is known to be very reliable. A small number of them produced before 2012 had a gearbox issue but that’s really all I’ve ever heard. Of course small kinks are worked out over production years but nothing major across the 458s has really changed.
The answer is : YES ! But only because of years 2010/2011 ... There were "some issues" with DCT's (too many) ... If you want one of those years, do negotiate 2 years warranty with the car before you pay it !
Guys come on, with all due respect, I'm yet to see evidence to support that 2010-2011 458s are more prone to failures or not as reliable, or inferior in relation to the rest of the 458 production. I've very seldomly seen here, but seen several cases at my Ferrari dealer and heard first hand from owners, of post 2012 458s and F12s with the same problem. So in terms of quantity and proportion of failures, who's to say? And where and how were those cars used? Were they tracked? Were they abused? All of the above? Which one is more prone to failure? A properly taken care of 2010-2011 or an abused and tracked post-2012? See how little we know about this and how relative it is? And how easy it is to bash a car or to have misconceptions about something? From 2012 onwards, Ferraris came with the "free" 7 year scheduled maintenance service included. And that's the only difference I'm aware between production years. The rest is a lot of hearsay, lots of rumours and myths, as personally I'm yet to witness conclusive, scientific, mechanical proof/reasons to support any other argument. The internet is a great place to start a rumour, and that's how "urban legends" are created. 20k and 30k transmission explosions, people not knowing how to properly handle the F1 shift-paddle transmission, sub-standard 458s, buyer beware 2010-2011 458s, and just the other day we had a thread stating that the 488 was no good because it's too fast. Seriously?! And I'm sorry if I sound too harsh, but things break over time, namely if not properly maintained or misused/mishandled in some way over time. So, I'm not saying Ferraris are bulletproof (what is in life?), nor am I downplaying failures that occured on specific cars to some owners (believe me, I'm not, I also ended up with a hefty bill from Ferrari, albeit not from transmission-related issues), but If you buy any modern Ferrari V8 and/or V12, but can't face the costs of extensive maintenance, then Ferrari may not be the thing for you. Which is not a criticism, nor a judgement on someone's financial wealth: there are other interests in life and other car brands which can bring a lot of driving pleasure. But you do have to accept the Ferrari way and its costs, plan in advance and factor that in when you buy one. Buying it is the "easy" part. Keeping it is a different ball game, namely if you look after it the way you should. Keeping a Ferrari on a budget must be a nightmare. I've experienced failures in a Mercedes-Benz, in which some parts were very close to Ferrari's prices. I just think that things can go wrong with any car, and the fact that Ferrari's costs are potentially high shouldn't disqualify nor diminish the car's dynamic abilites and/or mechanical reliability. I'm not saying this is the case here, but I've seen many times before Ferrari owners bashing their car or a specific Ferrari car, just because something broke and the person in question was unable or unwilling to face the music. And that's the headline. No one digs deeper to know how the car was used and maintained, nor how frequent the failure may be. I for one like to be factual, and not stick to soundbites. That said, I've seen approximately the same number of 458s and 488s for sale. I imagine keepers will continue to keep them, whereas other owners want to try out new cars, namely the Pista and the Superfast. I think there's nothing wrong with the 458 nor the 488, both are two of the best Ferraris of all time if you ask me. It's more a matter of personal choice than a statement about the performance and greatness of the cars, in my humble opinion. Kind regards, Nuno.
I have a 2010 458 and have never had an issue with it. More reliable then my wife's Mercedes. I am selling mine to move to a spider, which they only started making in 2012. The 458 is and will be a great car with very good reliability. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk
they are coming up for sale coz it's spring and summer is around the corner best time to sell a car 2010-11 have been out of warranty for a while now, nothing to do with that after 8-9 years