More Ferrari cheating allegations

Yep, i understand re the mirrors but as i read the motorsport article, even the winglets did not violate a specific regulation but were banned. That is crap as far as I am concerned because if Ferrari could do it then everyone could if they wanted; and if it is a waste of time because the benefit is de minimis, then what do others care?

 

Charlie is being a bit coy...the winglets absolutely violate the as-written 2018 technical regulations. Technical regulation 15.2.6 defines the fairing that is allowed on the halo...Ferrari’s solution clearly violated that regulation.

 

Newsflash from 2013..... FIA to be renamed in a new marketing initiative. They are to be called MIA with immediate effect.... anyone that mentions the old joke about ferrari international assistance in the last five years makes me so angry as they systematically pick at ferrari while allowing all sorts of ******** and loopholes by Mercedes with nare a quiver of the lip..

 

This winglet nonsense is so much todo about nothing. The mirrors are legal and were approved prior to their placement if there is some discussions needing to be had about the mounting wing above it than big deal, they’ll take them off is necessary. If you want to talk about cheating then howbout these rumors of the mechanism that Mercedes had to remove from the combustion unit before the season begain. It was such a blatant cheat that they couldn’t even start the season with it. No discussion just an immediate ruling to remove it and that it obviously wasn’t legal nor even tried to be. That’s why they were off the pace in the first couple races.

 

Yeah...they ALL cheat, bend the rules, and exploit loopholes... I have said that repeatedly...

This particular thread is about Ferrari's recent attempts at doing such...

The winglets ARE much ado about nothing because they were on race cars that didn't perform well while they were on... that doesn't change the fact that they are blatantly contrary to the regulations.

 

Did Charlie call you?

 

Surprisingly, no...

I can, however, read. It's all there in black and white... actually, that section of the regulations in my copy is pink and white.

I'd post a screenshot, but I've learned that slicing my wrists is less stressful with the current fchat software.

 

Go ahead a transcribe it for us.

 

To quote Daytona355: I can't be bothered...

It's easily accessible online. Technical regulation 15.2.6

 

Well, I've not read Charlie's cheat book, but for me, whatever the rule say, that thing Ferrari was using was a f...ing wing over the mirror. It's obviously against the "spirit" of the rule.

I think this time Charlie managed it well: OK, you've found a loophole, you can use it this race, but we'll rewrite the book to make sure you can't do it again.

Having said that, sometimes Charlie has turned a blind eye for cars that were against the "spirit" of the rule for an entire season. I've stopped worrying about FIA's incoherence long time ago.

 

Again, I think this one was more than running against the spirit of the rules... the allowable aerodynamic add-ons to the halo are well defined.

I agree that Charlie handled this one well...his other option was to ban Ferrari from the race.

 

And he entire f1 show would be finished. Charlie needs to remember that ferrari have always been there, manufacturers like Mercedes come and go as they please, and don’t give a **** what happens if they leave.....letting them run the regulations for six years isn’t cheap

And yeah, I definately wouldn’t be bothered to post up stuff others can find with a little study, **** em! Hehe

 

It is just funny how Ferrari works within a "Grey Area" of the rule book and all the other teams scream that we are "bending them over a stack of tires and using extra coarse lapping compound for lube". Yet when other teams work the grey areas the are put into the light as innovators of the sport. Wollf, Horner and the rest of the cry babies running teams need to grow up and just realize that Ferrari is the true innovators of race car technology and they are the imitators.

 

I see that as Ferrari going to try a different method of trying a different part than the one they currently done now that it clarified properly over what is correct and not allowed. I suspect Ferrari will try a different way that is correct that will be more agreeable in other races.

 

It was not an aerodynamic add on to the halo, but to the mirrors.

BTW, Red Bull also has vertical fins in their mirrors that only have aerodynamic use. Charlie should ban those also, but as I've said, I don't try to find coherence in whatever he does.

 

Teams which use more than one mounting, may be required to demonstrate why they are needed from a structural point of view.

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...and, the mirrors were mounted to the halo. We can run around that circle all day long.

 

Exactly. It was a grey area, but not openly illegal as you mentioned.

 

Yeah none of those mirror mounts are aerodynamic devices

 

The only thing that would make it a grey area is the suggestion that it is a mirror support...a suggestion that everyone but Ferrari found to be a ludicrous one. Otherwise, the aero additions to the halo are quite well defined.