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  1. Protouring442

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    Full auto haven't been "on the shelves" in decades.

    Semi-auto describes probably 60% or more of all firearms in the US.
     
  2. Protouring442

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    Tell that to the more than 200-million murdered by their own governments in the Twentieth Century alone. Tell that to the more than 2-million who use their legally owned firearms defensively each year in the US.
     
  3. knocker

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    Well that’s 60% to many mate


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    This latest one was done with a shotty and a pistol,I believe.
     
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    Kids going to school to commit murder isn't the norm in many other parts of the world, either--why is that? Why aren't kids stabbing other kids, intending to kill them, in other parts of the world? Why aren't kids beating other kids within inches of their loves in other parts of the world? Take the guns away in the US and you would still have violent kids. In fact, even with the guns, we still have myriad violent kids committing violence without guns. The guns aren't the causative factor in the violent acts being carried out, it's the item used in carrying out the violence.





    Or did guns make these kids do this?
     
  6. Protouring442

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    From a guy whose country just outlawed a .22 rimfire, bolt-action rifle because it looks scary.

    May future events never cause you to have to eat Mr. Santayana's words...
     
  7. knocker

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    Well good luck with your ideas and yep a gun is a gun,outside of sports hunting and the military I see no reason to have one


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    Whilst you and other pro firearm folk continually bring up totally unrelated incidents,you'll never 'get' the fact that by allowing nearly every citizen in the US to obtain something that continually lowers the population by mass murder.
    Schools being the flavour of the month,Las Vegas ,Orlando nightclub,churches...etc.

    Here's a list.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_shootings_in_the_United_States
     
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    100% Adrian and that's why the US is so Fu#ked up.....Never seen a place with so many 1%ers....more than half of the population is so paranoid about nothing......That's why they have to justify having a gun....And you can't even put petrol in them and rev them....:)
     
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  10. Protouring442

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    Maybe because we understand causation vs correlation.

    Violent people are the causal factor in violent crime.

    Since you like lists...

    https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE1.HTM
     
  11. knocker

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    Well said mate This isn’t a pleasant subject and I’m hungover from my sons 20 th last night so I’m going to clean my Ferrari 360 spider in Grigio Alloy with Blue Scurro leather interior [emoji120]Because it’s Fun[emoji237][emoji237][emoji237][emoji237]


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    Or you make effective easy to use killing equipment far to easy to obtain and have a constitution that encourages everyone in the United States to do just that ,Buy a gun it’s for your own protection against other fellow Americans who also have guns it’s fuxking madness .


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    Once again...irrelevant.

    Get rid of the access to firearms you get rid of the means to commit your atrocities,doesn't matter how fu%^ed up the person is.
     
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    Your wasting your time Simon......These people are brainwashed by their own propaganda......
     
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    Because the Boston Marathon bombing was committed with firearms?

    Because the Oklahoma City bombing was committed with firearms?

    Like when Earl Sykes beat three people to death with a firearm?

    Like the 500 people beaten to death with firearms in 2011 (more than were shot with all kinds of rifles, combined)?

    Like the 700 people beaten, strangled, or kicked to death with firearms in 2011?

    Like the 1,700 people who were stabbed to death with firearms in 2011?
     
  16. Protouring442

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    Look who's talking...
     
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    Head/sand.

    Say no more.
     
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    Reckon.....they must be THE most paranoid country in the world.
     
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    Yep......
     
  20. simon klein

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    Y'know Bill,the scariest part of this whole debate/arguement is that you and your ilk (pro firearms) don't 'get' that every example of anything else that has killed folk other than firearms..............................is totally irrelevant to your side of the story.
     
  21. Protouring442

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    I just hope your medical community understands correlation and causation better than you two...
     
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    Right, because the common cause--you know, the freaking violent person committing the murder--has no actual part in the death of the person so murdered. It's the gun--I get it now.

    So, how do they control us? Some sort of mind control device that has evolved within them, and which can effect people far, far away from the actual gun? I mean, how does a gun in Miami, Florida cause some guy in England to beat his wife to death? Fascinating stuff!
     
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    The incidence of mental health disorders is not different in the US vs Australia, yet mass school shootings occur regularly in the US. Other than easy access to guns, why do you think that is the case?
     
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    What do you do with mentally unstable kids who demonstrate violent tendencies? In the US, we put them in classrooms full of normal kids, in schools full of normal kids, because doing anything else would hurt their self esteem.
     
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    We do the same, mental health is poorly managed here. We don't have mass school shooting because the percentage of gun owners in this country is low and access is difficult. THE END, unless you can think of another reason for regular mass shootings in the US
     
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