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Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by MalibuGuy, Jun 20, 2018.

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  1. MalibuGuy

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    #1 MalibuGuy, Jun 20, 2018
    Noticed that my car was not stopping as efficiently. My old pads had 3mm at best in front. The rears had plenty of meat left.

    With the new front pads the stopping is terrific again.

    The Carbon Ceramic rotors were fine so no replacement needed.
     
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  2. AlfistaPortoghese

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    #2 AlfistaPortoghese, Jun 21, 2018
    MalibuGuy, that sound great!

    Any lights/warning message(s) on the dash letting you know it was time to change front brake pads?

    Kind regards and keep enjoying in good health!

    Nuno.
     
  3. MalibuGuy

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    #3 MalibuGuy, Jun 21, 2018
    Theoretically one should get an alert if either the pad has worn down or if the trotor needs replacement.

    The pads have a electrical sensor and the car ECU give the rotor warning based on your brake history and an algorithm.

    I was right at 3mm of remaining pad. The front brakes sounded different (maybe there is an audible warning feature) I didn’t get any red warning light on the display.

    New pads sound nice and quiet.
     
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  5. Melvok

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  7. MalibuGuy

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  8. MalibuGuy

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    #8 MalibuGuy, Jun 21, 2018
    The part number should be the same for 458 coupe and spider.
    There are four pads for the front brake set and four pads for the rear set.
    Each caliper requires 2 pins and 1 clamp. So the front set requires 4 pins and 2 clamps.
    Each caliper houses 2 pads which share an electrical sensor (Y connection)

    To change the pads, you must have a torque wrench to remove the wheel bolts. When you retighten the wheel bolts you need to torque them to 75 foot pounds in order not to deform the rotors.

    After the wheel is removed, you must gently push out the silver pins by striking the outside side of the pin and pushing in the brass color clamps. After you do this for the upper pin , the clamp is free and then repeat the procedure for the lower pin.

    Remove the black rubber bleeder cap, place a small wrench on the bleeder nut, and while the wrench is still attached place a plastic tube onto the bleeder nozzle. Now you can loosen the bleeder nut and separate the old pad from the piston by gently applying pressure. Do not damage the ceramic rotor or the piston. Once you have moved the pad , tighten the bleeder nut. Wiggle out the old pad. Prepare the new pad by securing the metal shim and applying grease to the shim. Next insert , the new pad.
    Follow the same approach for the inside pad.

    Next do this for the other side.

    Now you must bleed the system. Make sure you have enough fluid in the master
    Cylinder reservoir,

    Have your assistant apply brake pressure to the brake pedal with the engine on while you open the bleeder valve and close it as the brake pressure is applied and held. This is the standard brake bleeding protocol.

    Then carefully test drive the brakes going at a slow speed with no traffic such as in a parking lot.
     
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    #9 action-ant, Jun 21, 2018
    Thanks for the write-up! Did you purchase the pads from any specific vendor/site?

    Anthony
     
  10. MalibuGuy

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    #10 MalibuGuy, Jun 22, 2018
    RicambiAmerica carries the OEM Brembo pads
     
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  11. MalibuGuy

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    #11 MalibuGuy, Jun 22, 2018
    Yes your part number looks correct
     
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    #12 MalibuGuy, Jun 22, 2018
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    #13 Melvok, Jun 22, 2018
    Thanx a lot, seems an easy job.

    Dealer asks 1.5 hrs so that may save me $ 200 ...
     
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    #14 RayJohns, Jun 22, 2018
    Yes... and so far I'm not sure this was a good decision on my part

    Ray
     
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    #15 Melvok, Jun 22, 2018
    As more and more people say … :D

    How about the new successor, called 588, with V6 and turbo's …. arggggg
     
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    #16 AlfistaPortoghese, Jun 22, 2018
    I get you, Ray. But enjoy the 488 to the fullest, it's a great car. There's always time to get back on a 458, they're depreciating for the time being at least, before people realise IT IS the last naturally aspirated, Pininfarina V8 and value reflects that.

    Kind regards,

    Nuno.
     
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  17. MalibuGuy

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    #17 MalibuGuy, Jun 22, 2018
    Congrats on the 488! Its faster and quicker than the 458.

    Hey did you see that the Pista uses a Lithium ION battery!

    I wonder if Ferrari made any other electrical modifications such as with the alternator or ECU charging strategies,

    The brakes on the 488 are different from the 458. The 488 uses a caliper similar to the LaFerrari-- hence different pads.
     
  18. MalibuGuy

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    #18 MalibuGuy, Jun 22, 2018
    Have you bled brake lines and master cylinder before?
     
  19. rlips

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    #19 rlips, Jun 25, 2018
    I don't understand why you would loosen the bleeders to push the caliper piston back. I've done many pad replacements, in many cars, including my 458 challenge, and never needed to do this. The excess brake fluid will return to the reservoir. I would think that opening the bleeder nipples will run the risk of fluid coming out them during retraction.

    Bleeding, of course , is an entirely different issue. And if you are replacing pads only on a street car bleeding would not always be needed. however if you wanted to change the fluid, due to age, you will also want a diagnostic tool so you can flush the ABS module, otherwise old fluid will remain their.

    Racer, of course, is entirely different, we bleed every day, and usually find bubbles. Of course, much more heat, as you can see.... Image Unavailable, Please Login
     
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  20. MalibuGuy

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    #20 MalibuGuy, Jun 26, 2018
    Good to know about another short cut!
     
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    #21 Solid State, Jun 26, 2018
    I don't know about tracking but if your normal car needs brakes it should have the fluid changed and the calipers serviced at that time. Lots of pad dust caked onto the piston rubbers and you want those looking and working like new again. I only shortcut the brake job when the car is well over 200K miles and then I've been known to put "less used" ones on to stop the grinding! The Ferrari sadly gets so little use by comparison that I doubt it will ever need pads let alone rotors. I do like to drive with all the nannies switched off so the rears don't get hot during normal or fun driving.
     
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    #22 azlin75, Jun 26, 2018
    one reason i can think of is if someone has topped off the brake fluid reservoir. Then forcing the fluid back into the reservoir would cause excess fluid to overflow and could cause damage to any finishes it splashes or drips onto. Also on a car such as a Ferrari in most cases given the 2 year intervals on fluid replacement would seem to be a good time to replace the fluid while servicing the brake pads and if needed rotor.
     

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