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What Is The Next Ferrari Model To Jump In Value?

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  1. flat_plane_eddie

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    F355 Fan 82, you’re always repeating the same stuff and that’s fine if you’re in love with your 575 and really like it. That’s the most important thing.

    However, your position is unique. I’m 30 and I don’t know a single person who had a poster of a 575. I’ve been into cars for a long time but barely knew anything about the 550/575 until a few years ago. Truth be told, they’re old man cars. This is coming from someone who wanted to buy one 4 years ago, by the way.

    The F1 transmission will be a huge pain to fix and service in 10 years because rebuilding certain components is very pricey already and maybe in 10 years the necessary parts won’t even be made anymore.

    While it’s an entertaining transmission in certain circumstances, overall single clutch automated transmissions are crappy and prone to many problems.
     
  2. davidoloan

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    I believe there is still a place for the manual, but I’ve nothing against all the recent designs. The new A110 has paddles because they only had the budget for one system, and the target market, young, demands, they think, paddles, so they went that way. I’m very interested in the car and I won’t let it put me off if I like it after getting a go. And all reviews so far are good. Still would prefer a manual. Never been against full automatics either in the right role.

    I just think F355 fan82’s repeated stock hyping of his “investment” is bonkers. I like the 575 F1 just fine.
     
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  3. Shark01

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    And as you are a 355 F1 owner, not surprised you feel that way
     
  4. boxerman

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    The metorite is called the autonomous car. I t wont be long before its detirmed that humas are too unpredoictable to share the road with auto cars.

    But then i can also see a future of giant country club car places. While we lament that todays youth is not into cars, or geargheads, a significant percentage still are. There is an incredible allure to controlling the gas burning machine, unwinding it down a road. Today thats already increasingly diffuclt not nly because of traffic and rules but also because modern cars are already appliances. A sienna minivan has a smoother motor and is quicker and better dynamicaly than some of the greats. Yet its not going to inspire you to take a drive or wake up at 630 am on sunday. just for the enjoyment of it.

    The other thing we will loose is the road trip. We already lost looking at a map on the road and seeing something in the corner that looks inetersting and going to there to see. Now GPS takes you were youre going, it can show you where you are, but not really in relation to anywhere else.

    My advice to anyone who simply loves to drive. its is to try a lotus elise, provided you have some twisty road and elevation changes. Some might say a 355 was the last truly rewarding ferrari to drive.
    There are also cars ;liek 308s that have temendous potential. Once they are valued classics things like higher compresion pistons different cams and exhaust could really awaken the potential of these cars.

    Yet we live in an era of instant new collectables. Appealing a a speciale or a pista is one wonders how much of that is due to how much people enjoy those machines and how much is due to great brand marketing and control. Were apoaching the convergance of a lot of things. Any number of compoanies today may make a superlative machine in any number of price brackets.
     
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  5. Shark01

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    Is Kurt allowed to have multiple accounts....LOL

    Makes some sense though as I imagine the GT cars skew older than sport model owners.
     
  6. Rossocorsa1

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    Owner or not, nobody can deny that the 355 and the 575 were the first cars for Ferrari to transition to a new transmission. At the time, it was a huge technological leap and Ferrari never looked back. Who can deny that? It isn't an opinion it just is. I happen to love gated cars. Now, whether that becomes part of the collectors mindset remains to be seen.
     
  7. Shark01

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    And Bruce Willis STILL has us covered (Die Hard 4)
     
  8. davidoloan

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    Jeremy Clarkson period review of the pre facelift car:

    “I’ll start with the noise, or rather the lack of it; I know those interfering morons at the EU have all sorts of rules these days but I do think Ferrari could have made it sound a little bit hornier "

    “the grill makes it look like a village idiot, the air scoop on the bonnet is hopelessly wrong, and so are the headlights, but worse than all that it bears an uncanny resemblance to the Toyota Supra”

     
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  9. Shark01

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    Geez, no one is denying they were the first of its kind......the argument is around HOW important are they now and in the future. My kids aren't sitting around playing PONG or Intellivision instead of PS4....but will gladly play an analog game like Tennis or go run obstacle courses.
     
  10. Shark01

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    Well, quoting Clarkson seldom helps anyone's argument.....
     
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  11. Rossocorsa1

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    Of course we can debate whether it has collector value in the future (which is the point of the this thread) but If someone doesn't comprehend the significance of a revolutionary technology that birthed a new direction for the most iconic automotive brand in the history then I certainly can't help them.
     
  12. Rossocorsa1

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    As for models that have serious upswing potential, I've always been surprised that Boxers haven't taken off in a serious way. I've always considered them far more exciting than 365's. Go figure.
     
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  13. G. Pepper

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    Clarkson comparing the 550 to a Supra was just so, so wrong. Good for a laugh, though, which is mostly what he's good for.
     
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    That makes them historically notable, but not necessarily skyrocketing in future value. If the F1 transmission gives those cars an edge for value increase, then why are F1 355s & 360s consistently more affordable than gated cars right now? What's going to happen in 10-20 years that a transmission that is LESS desirable today, becomes the hot feature?

    If the answer is "millennials can't drive a stick", I think you'll also find they won't be interested in Grandad's 575, either.
     
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    A few years ago, at an exotic show that the Lamborghini Club of Austin put on, I showed my 456M. A couple of millennial doofuses wandered buy and took a look at the V12. One says to the other, "It has the engine in front, like a regular car!" Then they walked away shaking their heads. So yes, to some of today's ignorant kids, a front V12 Ferrari isn't exotic enough.

    The judges were on my side, though, as I won third place in Modern Italian, Non Lamborghini versus at least a dozen 360's alone. One judge told me he'd been doing this for years, and had never seen a Rosso Corsa 456. There were hundreds of Lambos there. I had never seen so many in one place before. And dozens of Ferraris.
     
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  16. Rossocorsa1

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    “It has the engine in front, like a regular car”

    I’m sorry, but I’m cracking up. That is hilarious. About how old were they?
     
  17. Rossocorsa1

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    Do you mind posting a few photos of the exterior and interior? I too have never seen a Rosso Corsa 456.
     
  18. G. Pepper

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  20. G. Pepper

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    Thanks! Supposedly, only 15 RC 456's and 456M's combined, and I think that's worldwide.

    Oh, the doofuses in Austin were early twenties.
     
  21. MonsterCro

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    I do believe they made a handfull of 599's in manual
     
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    https://washington.cbslocal.com/2016/10/12/report-only-18-percent-of-americans-can-drive-manual/

    MINNEAPOLIS (WCCO) — A new report shows fewer Americans own a car with manual transmission let alone know how to operate one. And there appear to be a number of reasons for it.

    The report from U.S. News and World Report show only 18 percent of U.S. drivers know how to operate a stick shift. It says that because of advancements in automatic transmissions and fuel economy, only about 5 percent of vehicles sold in the U.S. today come with a stick shift. That’s down from 25 percent of cars in 1987.

    The third pedal is also bad for re-sale value, on average selling for $2,000 less than cars with automatic transmissions.
     
  23. G. Pepper

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    Yes, in the single digits or low double digits, IIRC. Six manual Californias too.
     
  24. MonsterCro

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    So that would make the 599 the last v12 with manual transmission. I saw one for sale here in Australia last year. I believe it sold within a few hours with a hefty price tag
     
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  25. G. Pepper

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    I'm surprised there even is one in Australia. That's amazing.

    I do remember a thread here by a guy in the US who drove one and he said it was a handful. He actually preferred the F1.
     

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