My (Bob) Norwood Experience

I think the legal consequences are minor. Issues like breaching the peace, trespassing etc.

If you can take the car, pay what you feel is due, then Norwood is left with the option to make a legal claim for monies, which is doubtful or stop right there.

 

Get an attorney. Have him call his attorney. What’s it take to work it out? Use them to take the anger out of it.

If he’ll take the car as compensation then that’s the deal. Seems too costly to me but it is up to him. If they can split the final cost then maybe that is the easier way. Whatever.

Listening to a bunch of us doesn’t get the job done and it’s already been a year.

So what’s he gonna do??

SV

(Wouldn’t be surprised to hear he wants these posts removed tho!)


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That could easily turn into three years of pointless letters back and forth. This is common.

If you attempt to take the car, and the police are called, then they are likely to see no legal reason Norwood can hold the car. They will say it’s a civil matter. Have a lawyer inform the police in advance that you are going. As long as you try to minimise disruption and you keep moving you will probably get the car. Then the matter is ended unless Norwood decides to sue, in which case it’s only over a disputed amount, as long as you pay something.

If you walk away this could drag on twenty years, with lawyers letters and billings for storage and collection agencies etc.

Engage a lawyer only for a concrete outcome. i.e. to identify the location of the car, to release the car or lay the grounds for taking it; it’s being held unlawfully.

I do agree with those who think the situation is untenable and needs to be ended. I just think that walking away won’t achieve that. Work from a position that the dream is over and you are interested only in minimising your loss.

 

Best of luck to you with your case, Russ. Sincerely. I hope you have a good outcome.

 

I sincerely wish you the best of luck.


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I sincerely wish you the best of luck. I am in DFW, and would love a good party.

But alas, I fear You will never see a penny from Bob. TEXAS does have some great laws, but they also have great protections. He can file for bankruptcy, never pay you a dime. He will Have a protected homestead without lien, a car and can practice business using someone else’s name. If he was a mid to large size corporation you may recover all that you desire. But he is a small bit player in Rockwall Texas with no real money, no store front on a busy street with land value and no way to pay you treble damages once he has no new business coming to his shade tree garage.

I appreciate the candor and the reasons why. I understand the financial loss is staggering to say the least and not without huge personal turmoil. But having read that, the heartfelt words and the sentence: “I am going to have my car, I am going to drive it and drive hard,” has sealed your fate.

I wish you the best and I hope I and others are wrong. I am afraid it will not turn out as you hope.

I am going to mute this thread for a few months/years and come back to it. Who knows. Cheers!


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I wish you all the luck Russ. I know where you are coming from and would probably feel the same. Its also kinda the principal of the thing too. Hope you get your car soon.

 

Amazing. Wow.

What are your expectations for your 355/288 GTO? How long do you expect to keep it? How many miles will you drive it?

Matt

 

I don’t think you should be a moderator here.

 

Yep. Disgraceful.

 

And I think that you kids should subscribe.

Cough up a few bucks for the forum.

And I think it’s a pretty legitimate question. I’m very curious to hear what Russ’s expectations are.

Matt

 

and there it is.

I was subscribed for years, and I will again when I have access to all the free areas.

but your comment shows quite the insight about you, not that I had any doubt.

I'll say it again, despite what Rob said previously, people like you should NOT be mods. Mods have to be held to a higher standard, and that's all there is to it.

 

There’s always the exception that proves the rule; Andrew is always considered, friendly and seems to be in it to contribute, and maybe learn too I guess. But most mods on the internet; why do they do it? To wield very minor power and control over people they don’t really know, Narcissistic really.

 

You don't have access to the rest of the non-subscribed areas?

 

I'm not sure why Mods aren't allowed to converse in the same tone and style, as the posts they don't remove?

 

Amen.

I’m not editing or deleting anything. I’m merely participating.

I could, if I wanted, issue a ban for being called “disgraceful”. But not for a user hasn’t seen my F-Chat content in its entirety.

I get NO money for being a Moderator in any way. But I encourage anyone reading this to join and at least see the Silver Subscribed content!

Matt

 

Your posts are disgraceful, not you......I don't know you from a bar of soap. So no, I don't believe that's what mods ban for.

BUT, your posts in this thread are provocative and possibly could be considered borderline trolling. Like I said, that's ok for most people, but mods can't just do what others do. They have to be held to a higher standard, and that's all there is to it. If you can't show restraint, then you shouldn't be a mod. Nothing to do with being paid for it or not. Either you want to be a mod, and act accordingly, or stop being a mod. You're not the first one that this has been an issue with, and moderation powers have been taken away and/or given up in the past for that reason.

 

I’m a lot more interested in what Russ’s expectations are for this 308 GTO, both in delivery and in ownership longevity.

Matt

 

OIC. Apparently Presidents & CEOs of well-known companies make terrible mods, eh?

Like every other Member, he's here on his own time & dime & has opinions, curiosity, etc..

One thing I've emphasized for the longest time is mods are Members first. He strikes a great balance between work and play, even when being played.

"I am weak-ish on snatch" ~ joker57676

 

No, its the trolling ............

 

Are you calling me an OIC or him an OIC?

 

et tu, brute.

You're wrong. He can't just be like everyone else....mods have to lead by example, and he's posting stuff that I've seen people get banned for in other sections. It's just not on, and you know it.

I say again, if he can't control his posting, then he should give up being a mod. He has the choice, but he shouldn't do both.

 

One of the great things about being a moderator here is learning something about the other guys who moderate.

We're all sorts of different folks, which helps to give us varied insight into the issues that pop up here day to day. Some more important than others, but all get the serious attention of at least one, if not multiple moderators here.

Matt is one of the good ones. Often lending his opinion behind the scenes. I find his arguments logical and helpful. You may not agree with his posts in this thread, but I can tell you when I look for even treatment of members here, he's as good as it gets.

Wax, well, he's an enigma, but damn, he can defuse a problem with a single post. Wax on - Wax off, as it were. He can be a little cryptic sometimes, but there is no one better than him at understanding this places nuances.

And if you really want to know about the other guys, I'll post that up sometime too.

So, you couple of guys who are head hunting Smiles? Waste of time. Waste of energy. He's not goin' anywhere, and will, I'm sure, continue to contribute in ways seen and unseen by the members here.


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So, thats all very good. The trolling? That usually goes with those who don't have the qualities you mention. Why bother with it?