We need far more proof of this so called 588 imo ...
Surely, a Testarossa revival would have a hybrid V12 powerplant. Ferrari is adamant that the N/A V12 will live on. Personally, I believe that the 488 replacement will also be a V8TT with some sort of hybrid assistance.
I would love that But I highly doubt Ferrari would put a V12 in the rear of a production car So in my very humble opinion a V8TT hybrid cranking 1000hp would make an honorable Testarossa replacement
The question is whether the LaFerrari successor will have a V12 or not. I could imagine that the V8TT engine will be a more powerful ICE in future and thus implemented in the next hypercar. That would bring us back to the eighties V8 Turbo hypercar and V12 supercars.
Ferrari know better these days than to shoot themselves in the foot with a V8. The V12 has a lot of potential.
What would be great is a small V12 like they used to make with hybrid power to make up for the lack of torque and fuel mileage and pollution regulations.
The numbers matter in hypercar territory. The best performing engine will make it into it. But I agree that the V12 has a lot of potential. I am just not sure if that potential can be found in a hypercar application.
I like that idea of a small high-revving NA V12 with hybrid power. Maybe even with variable redline and cylinder deactivation depending in which drive mode you are.
Agreed the Valkyrie is a good example. However it will have “only” (I know that sounds ridiculous) 1000 hp which is the power output of the last generation hypercars. So its focus clearly will be more towards aero and lightweight. Question is what Ferrari aims for. What do you think about a Testarossa successor?
1100 HP, according to the latest rumours, but with only 1000 kg of weight it will have a far superior power/weight ratio than a 1500 HP Chiron!!! All these have to be proven of course, as Aston has never built anything similar and I am a bet sceptical regarding Cosworth's ability in producing such a high revving V12. Regarding the Testarossa successor, I am completely in the dark. I just wish that the 812's successor will revert to a rear-mid engine layout.
Sure if Cosworth can do it Ferrari can do it easily. Yes, a mid-engine 812 successor would be great! But I think it is more probable as new model line and not as a replacement for the 812.
That Aston also has a battery, KERS and an electric motor on its V12 drivetrain. Love the engine but not the hybrid part especially in such a light chassis.
Those race-honed hybrid systems add a lot and detract nothing from the experience and the performance!!!
Just wondering how Newey will be able to make a 1000 kg car with a Kers system and batteries ? Where are the mules ? It's time to deliver..
Too early to make that statement for the package as a whole IMO. Yes experience and performance a quick plus. As long as you don't think too hard about that battery set, high and low voltage control electronics, clutch system and electric motor and cabling. All are service, weight and fail points non-existent in an unassisted system. Much of this site recently is posting electronic gremlins and software difficulties as Ferrari increases production. My opinion - keep it simple, drop the weight and supersize the performance of that NA beast. The rest is unnecessary and will seriously detract from the experience when the issues add up down the road. For most short time owners this is certainly not a problem. Your opinion may vary!
If anything, they need to go even higher for the next hypercar. Felisa has been on the record saying that one of the great mistakes of the F50 was the small sized V12.
I am sorry, but that's not forward thinking. Regarding costs, I don't think that owners of 2 million hypercars cannot bear them...
Despite my profession, I'm definitely not forward thinking on many things! I was also speaking more in terms of the hybrid solution for the 488 replacement (thread title). Seems a different story in a hypercar for differentiation against the production class but they don't get driven much at all so really a worse solution when it comes to a stagnant rack of batteries.
