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"OFFICIAL" Coupe/Spyder/GranSport Thread

Discussion in 'Maserati' started by 4200GT, Aug 10, 2017.

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  1. S_AGATA

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    Larini Section 1 & 2 followed by a Tubi section 3 on our Coupe GT.


     
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  2. F1tommy

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    Interesting link with almost everything you need to know about various 4200 models. It is not debatable as this link states about CC maintenance. The CC will cost you a lot more to operate than a GT true manual, and will also wear out faster unless you are a horrible shifter. Also the early CC's did shifts at around 1/2 a second. I can shift my manual faster than that.



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  3. absostone

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    great info thanks
     
  4. absostone

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    So I drove a Gt. A few questions. Why is the clutch pedal approx 3 inches higher than the other pedals? And why do the RPMs stay up in between shifts. Very odd feeling
     
  5. absostone

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    So I was at the dealer today and believe it or not there was a GT there in for what looked like some problem under the dash, probably heater core, who knows. I looked at the pedals and the clutch was much higher. But had rubber pads on them which would probably make them a smidge lower compared to the aluminum pedals that the car I drove had. But I don't understand that weird cutoff/ rpm thing when I was shifting it. Could it be the DBW? does anyone even install one on a GT?
     
  6. absostone

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    guys input please.
     
  7. F1tommy

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    I don't know of most of you have ever noticed this but a lot of top tier race cars(Group C, F1) had offset clutch pedals before they all went paddle shift. Yes the 4200 GT does have offset pedals and I like it. You will get used to it and may like it better after you get used to it. As for the RPM cutoff, I don't know what that is about. Mine does not do that.

    By the way, the heater core is the same as on the Alfa 166 and that part is much cheaper than the Maserati part. Alfa 166's are Europe only so you won't find parts for them locally.
     
  8. Foncool

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    The heater-core from a Saab 9000 also fits and can be purchased for les than $20.00
     
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  9. absostone

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    Yes I'm aware of the parts thanx but I'll try and explain the rpms. It shifts five. It seams that the rpms stay steady when the clutch is pushed in. Then the rpms drop when the next get is up shifted after the clutch is let out. See here


    Go to 8:30. Exactly this. Turn on subtitles please. And thx for the reply.
     
  10. absostone

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    Exactly what I would describe.
     
  11. F1tommy

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    Not sure what that is caused by but I bet it has something to do with the gear change cables or maybe the clutch hydraulics. I just drove my spyder a few miles and tried to duplicate and it would not do that. I did do very fast shifts so it did not have time to change rpm very much. I do remember when my clutch pump was going out it would sometimes hang between gear changes and that sounded sort of like the video.
     
  12. absostone

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    Thx Tommy. But it shifts fine. What I am describing is like what cironi says in the video. It shifts fine it's not a slipping
     
  13. F1tommy

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    Ok... I do agree with him on the suspension, way to soft. If anyone buys one of these they need to upgrade the springs and sway bars, and if it is not a GS get a Tubi or Larini system. I think Ferrari tried to make this car more luxury and less performance by softening the suspension. Maybe they did not want to step on the Ferrari market to much, although I have a feeling they did anyway. Just like Alfa Quad's and Giulia's stealing Ghibli sales now.
     
  14. SpyderGT

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    I understand that it is the labor for removing the dash is the big expense associated with replacing a heater core on a 4200 series car. I have seen a DIY guide with photos (and maybe videos) that was on, or linked through, the maseratilfe forum. I never had issues with the heater core but it was something on my mind.

    Jon (Spyder GT 11323 - sold)
     
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    The minute I find one of these for sale, I'm buying one... haha. I've been looking for ages. This is a rare find!
     
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    Another pair of Maserati 4200 Trofeo videos. Sounds great with all the high pitch flat plane crank Ferrari's.




     
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    Wanna share pics of my 2005 Grans port full Formula dynamics wheel and coil overs brake pads and dbw f1. computerfd.ecm along with larini. Xpipe and fab speed sec cat delete all new piero all around just hit 30000miles car has nwpegaclutch done in 2017 about 700 miles ago
     

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    Wow! Is the car street legal where you live? Lucky you :)
     
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    Yes I live in Florida USA Boynton beach car is street legal and makes about 440 hp.have car weighs about3500.lbs she sounds amazing
     
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    I forgot about this video made back when Ferrari still ran the company. Also a few photos of my car, a 2002 4200 Spyder GT 6 speed manual taken downtown in Chicago. It is lowered slightly with Formula Dynamics springs and sway bars and Larini tail and X pipes. Sounds and handles like it should have from the factory.




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  23. F1tommy

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    #74 F1tommy, Mar 4, 2020
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    Also the complete production list for 4200's and 3200 coupes. They seem to be very close to the factory website numbers. GS and GS specials included in the website coupe totals ? +1 more Spyder GS. Spyder 90th is a Gransport chassis so that would add 181 to GS Spyders I guess.

    4200 M138 production numbers:

    Coupè Cambiocorsa: 5371
    Coupè Manual GT: 1078
    Spyder Cambiocorsa: 3134
    Spyder Manual GT: 574
    Spyder 90th Ann.: 181
    GranSport Coupè: 2432
    GranSport Spyder: 472
    GranSport MC Victory: 181

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