How long has it been since we heard this??? Christian Horner: Ferrari now setting F1 engine benchmark https://www.crash.net/f1/news/900894/1/horner-ferrari-now-setting-f1-engine-benchmark Ferrari's dominant display at Silverstone proves it is now the engine manufacturer to beat in F1, says Red Bull boss Christian Horner.
This will not best please Honda they just signed. RB has been vocal about Renault in the past; now it's the Japanese's turn to become the target of their criticism.
You have a point. For sure no one at Merc would say this. RB has stepped up its criticism of Renault these past 2 weeks. So there may be some politics going on here.
On par with Mercedes I'm sure now. I think in quali mode Mercedes just eeks it out, but it's close now. Kimi to get the spec 2 engine that Vettel has now in Germany.
Ferrari has the best engine, finally! Sidenote: Did you guys catch how Kimi was saying the aero on the Red Bulls make them really difficult to follow and overtake, while the Mercedes cars were far more straightforward.
Funny but if you think about it, it's an interesting strategy if you could pull it off. Make a defuser that's good for you but bad for the guy behind. Maybe an anti-DRS "device"
Alonso is now whining he's running against 3 Ferrari teams. I guess he forgets he's been running against 3 Mercedes Teams?
Given time, the ' engines will converge in future and deliver the same sort of power, give or take a few HPs.. This is when development hits a "plateau", and the best engineers cannot extract more power from a given design. This is why changing the engine formula in 2021 could be a mistake, because it would bring back disparity and inevitably one engine will be ahead of the others, and one team will be accused of "dominating" again.
Theres something that everyone is missing and that is reliability. Ferrari seem to have fond Power and reliability. Its possible that Mercedes are hurting there engines with the Party modes or setting them to "Rock and Roll" as I call it. Lets be honest, Honda will not catch both Mercedes and Ferrari in the Power/Reliability department in 2 years before the new engine regs come out.
The new regs are more focused in attracting new entries. All the current manufacturers have expressed more or less clearly that they don´t want to loose all the money spent in the MGU-H.
Porsche or Audi would be the best candidates to join as engine suppliers, IMO. Having competed in the WEC gave them some experience of hybrid power and complex systems. They wouldn't be starting from a blank sheet of paper for their design like others did 5 years ago. I think 2 years notice would be enough for them to hit the ground running. I would relish watching 2 German engineering firms going head to head in F1.
OH SNAP... I guess Liberty Media cracked down on Nico's ass and he had to take down the video... But in summary, he was saying that Ferrari came up with an ingenious way of manipulating the turbos to spin harder and at a higher pressure to be able to more rapidly generate electric surplus allowing for the drivers to push around the circuit with more hp all the time ie more boost at their disposal.
I’ve been saying this for years. The power units are expensive, but are not the “problem” with F1. Hit the reset button and we’re almost guaranteed to have one dominant team and at least one or two who fall FAR wide of the mark. In 2014, the racing was miserable and predictable. 2018 still has miserable races, but three teams have very realistic chances of victory...the only predictability left is the lack of overtaking due to aero. 2014 saw Hamilton or Rosberg clinching pole by the better part of (if not more than) a second...2018 sees the top six guys separated by a few tenths, if that. Qualifying shows the capabilities of the cars and power units...the parity is surprising. Races highlight the problems...they cannot race in spite of the power unit parity. Power units don’t suddenly change when the cars are in close proximity...the aero does. THAT needs to be the focus of the change.
Very true. Also the engine cost will go down if the same formula is kept. Why? Because most of the research and development would have already been done. The aero are what make the passing difficult, the races boring, and the cost out of control. I find stupid that the teams are only allowed a limited number of engines, but keep changing the aero constantly. Sounds daft to me.
Ferrari engine better than Mercedes - Rosberg Tuesday 10 July at 04:35 : Jul.10 (GMM) Nico Rosberg says the engine is what is making the difference at Ferrari this year. The 2016 world champion says he thinks his old teammate Lewis Hamilton is having a tough time fending off Sebastian Vettel's title assault mainly because of horse power. "I know from an insider source why Ferrari is so strong," said the former Mercedes driver. "They have found more power from their engine. The turbo has been upgraded and more recharging is happening for additional power," Rosberg said. "It's a small advantage at this time but Ferrari has done a good job." Meanwhile, Rosberg has questioned Hamilton's sudden interest in football. Hamilton said at Silverstone that he wanted to skip Saturday's press conference to watch England play in the world cup. And he says he is keeping July 15 free in his diary so he can travel to Russia for the final. But Rosberg told Bild newspaper: "Lewis is not really a football fan. It's all a bit of a show. That's part of his image." However, the German does think Hamilton will eventually win in 2018, notwithstanding the engine deficit. "I keep thinking that Lewis will get the title. Mercedes is incredibly strong as a team," he said. http://www.gptoday.com/full_story/view/645469/Ferrari_engine_better_than_Mercedes__Rosberg/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Exactly. When Ross Brawn was hired as adviser, I read he was going to address that problem (disturbing Wake). I have heard nothing about that since. To me, this is what is killing F1: the aero.
