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Pista pricing question...dealer sent my total today

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  1. kevin1244

    kevin1244 Formula Junior

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    Good analysis even though I don't fully subscribe to it...pistachio does not hold value no matter the macro economy situation ;)
     
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  2. BaronM69

    BaronM69 Formula Junior

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    This plus 100k lost on a Lusso.
     
  3. uhn2000

    uhn2000 Formula 3

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    Thanks @bobbyd awesome insight and I could not agree more. Hold on for dear life is what I am hearing :)
     
  4. m3the01

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    I thought it was only MSRP and Ferrari didn't allow a "market surcharge"? Second owner, for sure, dealer has right to car first, etc. Please lmk, I'm just wondering if some dealers are doing this a bit differently as of late.
     
  5. Motorwerks

    Motorwerks Formula Junior

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    The Ferrari 488 Pista is not worth $500,000+

    Simple as that.
     
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  6. Motorwerks

    Motorwerks Formula Junior

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    PS, would rather have the 488 replacement for est. $350k (which will likely surpass the Pista in every metric measurable)
     
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  7. ttforcefed

    ttforcefed F1 World Champ
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    there are going to be so many new VIPs that there arent going to be any VIPs left!
     
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  8. wrs

    wrs F1 World Champ
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    One thing that is missing in this thread is the marriage cost of these cars. I had to spend a ton of money on purses and jewelry after buying the 488 only one year after buying the Cali T. Now my wife wants to get rid of her 2016 QP and buy yet another lead balloon, the Maserati GT convertible. I looked at the trade in for the QP and it's $65k on a MSRP of $155k which we did not pay but did pay $115k. So while I lost $65k on the Cali T in one year, I am losing $50k on the QP if I get her the GT convertible which would also drop like a rock subsequently so it's like buying two Lussos. I don't even want to talk about how much the jewelry and purses cost plus a trip to Panama...............
     
  9. BaronM69

    BaronM69 Formula Junior

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    Which will leave room for you to get LaFerrari replacement this time ;)

    But, the supercars will follow the same pattern that the Pista.
    Enzo was Basically 600kE, a LaFerrari 1,600kE, and you see that a 50-100 items of LE 812, derivative from a standard 812, not full new engineering like Enzo...costs 2ME, we can expect the replacement LaFerrari to be at 2,500-3,500kE.
    812 "TdF", let's expect 900kUSD.

    Feel like this is a one time thing: Ferrari is pricing MSRP per Market Value, but when their cars don't increase or at least maintain value, there will be a big drop in the sales (of the other vehicles purchased to maintain premium profile at dealer/ferrari AND of the now overpriced vehicles)
     
  10. ttforcefed

    ttforcefed F1 World Champ
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    Agreed. As long as i have an f40, CS and a f355 im happy. An f50 wld be nice.


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  11. junc

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    Haha great point. Every new Ferrari means additional jewelry, purses and car for significant other. Hidden costs that must be considered like a luxury tax.
     
  12. uhn2000

    uhn2000 Formula 3

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    Ha! Purses and jewelery are easy, my wife wants a new house if we get the Pista! I still have not completely told her that it's coming.
     
  13. wrs

    wrs F1 World Champ
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    RESIST!
     
  14. gobble

    gobble Formula 3
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    They make you buy the ugly Ferrari station wagon to have the privilege of being able to buy a Pista?
     
  15. uhn2000

    uhn2000 Formula 3

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    Well today I broke it to her a little and I am slightly in the dog house right now. She keeps asking me how much it is. I keep changing the topic. She wants to know what's wrong with the current red one. Ahh gonna be a fun week :)
     
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  16. uhn2000

    uhn2000 Formula 3

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    No I already had the Lusso which I love, best car(s) for my needs. They made me buy a 488 coupe.
     
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  17. Melvok

    Melvok F1 World Champ
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    One thing: you cannot drive in a half car (if your wife claims the half of all your posession / money via a good lawyer) :eek:
     
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  18. Transman

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    Try not to worry about the wife
    Your worried about if you get divorced
    Answer
    Don’t get divorced
    Simple


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  19. wrs

    wrs F1 World Champ
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    Nothing wrong with it at all honey but it's a stepping stone to the car I really want. My wife did understand the game in advance, not that she approves, but at least she wants to drive the 488.
     
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  20. Caeruleus11

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    Exactly or major renovations/ decorating. Even if you lose 50% on a car, you can still get 50% back, and fairly quickly. Try getting anything back on a couch built to your specs. Or wallpaper..... you think cars are expensive? Its nothing next to "I'm going to the city with the decorator"...
     
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  21. Motorwerks

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    That's only a dealership requirement; not the rumored Ferrari NA requirement.

    For fact I know of individuals allocated a Pista that didn't have to buy that other POS.
     
  22. kevin1244

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    I think it all depends on the individual...I don't see anything as beautiful and as exciting as Pista in that price range. Never been a fan of Lambos (Aventador? too big, too heavy, over done styling) or Astons. McLaren's come close, I would say a 600LT would be a nice contender to the Pista but does not quite hold its value like a Ferrari. Porsche GT3 RS is an awesome car; it's not a Pista, and the price range is much lower (Have been a Porsche fan for a long time, I am getting one to replace my older one.) So, I think Pista is worth it to me!
     
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  23. Motorwerks

    Motorwerks Formula Junior

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    Simple. The 488 replacement for $200K less. I promise it'll outperform the Pista in every metric...and likely look better too.

    $200,000 surplus over a standard 488 for 50hp and some aero on an overall old design? Meh...It's not even a numbered car....

    The 488GTB should have been a Pista from day one honestly.
     
  24. kevin1244

    kevin1244 Formula Junior

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    Again, it depends on the individual. To me, Pista looks a lot better than a 488 GTB. I have no idea how the 488 replacement might look like and have no patience to pass on the Pista and wait for the next thing. Pista is here and looks amazing. Further, there is no doubt that Pista's performance will not easily be outdone by the 488 replacement. Speciale is still a very special machine even compared to 488 GTB. Go further, the CS is still a very special machine compared to any Ferrari that is not a LE or special series. You might say the CS is old design, etc, etc, but every time I start that car, it sends chills through my body. And I fully respect your stance that you'd like to save that $200k and wait for the next thing!
     
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  25. 09Scuderia

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    could be a long long wait. Its one thing for the car to be announced and first US deliveries to start. It is another thing to get a NEW car allocation unless you have a deep history or are willing to wait years....your individual experience will depend on your Ferrari history and dealer.

    I bet most folks in the bigger US markets won't have a shot to order a new 488 replacement for 3-4 years after the initial cars are delivered.
     
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