Pista pricing question...dealer sent my total today

Using some restraint I got to $443k . Granted this includes the instrument panel in CF which needs Matt carbon so that's close to $10k in total. I got all the CF extras outside however I do have misgivings on the $10k CF under door cover, thinking I might skip it. Know it is better to have all in CF but while I think $12k for diffuser can somewhat be justified, can't really say the same on the under door/sport sill... Views?
Anybody skipping CF outside altogether and saving $37k, might not look so hot with all the plastic and as per Speciale, most will look for the CF bits at resale.

 

I did discover why the CF under door piece is so expensive the actual entire piece side sill is CF and then painted to match your exterior color so I get it now.


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You are spending that much, I would not skip extrrior CF. Interior, I passed on some options that won’t affect resale. Missing Exterior pieces might affect desirability in a resale situation.

 

i'd rather have a CS over a Pista......

 

Good news for you: you can get about two CS for the price of a Pista

 

I was at the factory last Friday. On the assembly line, and cars just coming off of it, 8-10% of the V-8's I could see were Pista's. In fact, our guide even remarked "wow, a lot of Pista's coming off the line this week".

They certainly seem to be selling.

 

Fair point and @Dadr thanks for the info, didn't realize it. All boxes ticked on CF outside.
I did drop the CF instrument cluster, just didn't do it for me, bit too much


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First off, the Pista is poor value if you see it as a 488 with 50hp more. But if you judge cars on what they do for you, there is little competition. You have to go to a Senna to get much more performance at a similar price and then you cannot really drive it on a long road trip and it is still over £750k. And you may think of the Lusso as a ‘POS’ but please show a little respect towards those of us who love it. It is also a highly unique car that fulfills a purpose in my garage that no other car could. It is arguably Ferrari’s most unique and brilliant product. A Ferrari that is a proper car not a toy.

 

I don't doubt what you are saying. However those 'individuals' typically I would imagine are also offered all the the limited edition Ferrari models without even having to ask. They always grab the latest and greatest without hesitation...

 

IMThe Lusso may not be a car for me, but I agree, it is pretty cool. Defiantly not for everyone from a styling standpoint, but a pretty remarkable car nonetheless. It is far from a POS.

 

Not at all, people getting the Lusso talk are from dealers that are trying to push the envelope for more sales/money. Nowhere is a Lusso required to get a Pista allocation, that is simply a dealer decision and some clients fall for it not knowing any better.

 

8-10%? Or did you mean 80-100% of V8 cars on lower assembly? Remember, Pista orders are just starting to trickle in.

 

Don’t plan on pricing becoming softer. This from the investors meeting:

Between next year and 2022, there will be 15 new model launches, and the average retail price for cars will increase “significantly,” according to Ferrari’s head of sales, Enrico Galliiera. One notably departure from its high-powered heritage will be the introduction of smaller V-6 engines, which were also announced at the investor meeting.

 

It's also usual to paint a rosy picture for investors - volumes will increase, average prices will go up, just buy our shares
How sustainable it is in the medium / long term, only time will tell.

 

I think you should watch this clip and you might think differently. This is competition in the mid engine performance space. Sure Ferrari is a great brand but if this Corvette is available with a 5.5L turbo V8 making 850hp, I would buy it to go with my 488 Spider and use the Vette for the track. No doubt it will give the 720s a run for the money based on the looks of this Nurburgring video. I honestly have no need to waste money in order to get performance if that is what I I am after and Ferrari is putting a premium on performance which isn't what other vendors are doing.

https://www.motor1.com/news/266635/mid-engined-chevy-corvette-video/

 

Huh? ALL vendors put a premium on their performance models.......and if real track performance is the ultimate goal you are wasting your time and money with any street car, Corvette included..........go buy a race car.

 

The extra performance available in the Pista isn't worth the money being charged IMO, hence premium. The price on the MR Corvette hasn't been announced yet but the new ZR1 starts out at $120k and it's got a 755hp engine, more than the Pista and almost 100hp more than my 488.

 

Well I guess if headline power numbers is your game then you are absolutely right, for me though there is more to a car then just hp. And no disrespect intended to Corvette but the only people who regard it as a competitor to Ferrari (or Lambo or McLaren for that matter) are the people at Chevrolet.

 

Yeah, that's a track car alright!

I have a 488 Spider so I agree with you about there being more to the car. Styling and cachet are important when paying $3xxk for a car. Ferrari has both of these. All I am saying is that along the lines of some of the threads here that tend to bash the 488 for not having the performance of the 720s, the MR Corvette looks to achieve that for what is probably a lot less money. Will there be cachet and styling? Not so much. I have looked at the pictures of the MR Corvette and they look pretty good but not as good as the 488 and not close to the Pista.

I will never be offered a Pista or Pista Aperta nor a first year allocation on the next 488 and so being a nobody in the Ferrari world I would have to content myself with buying a McLaren for the performance brag but I don't like the styling. I do like the MR Corvette styling enough to buy it when it comes out and I probably will if it looks as good as some of the renditions based on the mule pictures. Then I have the best of both worlds for a more reasonable price and that is important to me since I also have a wife that objects to me "wasting money on cars".

Ultimately I think people like me will be looking for a car like the MR Corvette and that will diminish the appeal to me of getting the next 488. There is where Ferrari is going to see their customer lines shrinking.

 

Thanks for the offer Tim. I have a friend who recently bought a Camaro SS to replace his C6 Vette that he used to track. He says it's better than the C6 was by a good margin. I think he said it cost him $48k new and he is happy with it. For now I am stocked on cars and am just looking around for what I may buy in a year or so. Based on my status in the Ferrari world it's probably not another F car though.

 

Is this grigio titanio?

 

I wholeheartedly agree with your post, regarding the MR Vette, at least the 600+ HP version, seems enticing given that Ferrari is embracing the mass production, SUV and massive price increases. The SUV is entirely against the ethos of Enzo Ferrari and to top if off, they're not winning in it's most prized venue... Formula 1.