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  1. furoni

    furoni F1 World Champ

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    Elton sucks...no mather what....
     
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  2. kraftwerk

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    I'll leave this here :D
     
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  3. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Superb post ...
     
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  4. Nortonious

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    This. I follow F1 for many reasons. The personalities of the drivers are somewhere on the list I suppose, but it's just entertainment value....to which Kimi adds a lot (I hope we get some good interviews from him still over at Sauber). All this to say, Elton sucks! Seb Vettel FTW! haha.
     
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  5. sammysaber

    sammysaber Formula Junior

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    Best post ever.

    And all the individuals involved from the pit crew upwards for McLaren and Ferrari, also staff at Mercedes, plus the FIA, kept this a secret.

    Made Briatore look like an amateur at Singapore for getting caught.

    That is amazing.

    Much lols.

    Best,
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  6. Jakuzzi

    Jakuzzi Formula 3

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    No matter what.... he sucks? :)
     
  7. ricksb

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    To the first part of your statement....



    (I hate conspiracy theories in general, but I don't see any odd motion suggesting Hamilton hit a pitlane button...which was the actual allegation)
     
  8. P.Singhof

    P.Singhof F1 Rookie

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    OK, let´s pretend this childish conspiracy would be true for a second... and let´s pretend all the ones involved have kept their mouth shut to the present day (what is absurd alone keeping in mind it involved Ron, Lewis and Fernando of all people !!!)...
    May I ask all those believing in that drivel what the FIA would have done in case Kimi had a collision or a mechanical problem preventing him from winning the last race? How would the FIA made their story work out in this case???
     
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  9. P.Singhof

    P.Singhof F1 Rookie

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    Sorry, but I still do not see any proof for Lewis being the better driver or dealing better with pressure because I do not think that one can compare the situation of Lewis and Seb...
    Lewis can win his 4th title with Mercedes within 5 years, actually there is not much pressure on him, if he wins great for him, if not it does not really matter.
    Seb on the other hand is about to fulfill his lifetime achievement winning with Ferrari like his idol Schumacher, a brand he always loved. This can lame a person. Others have been in the same situation: Lewis in his first year when he realized that he can actually make history winning in his rookie season, Schumacher in 1998 when he was close to winning the title with Ferrari (stalling the engine in the very last race start) and now Vettel
    To say that Vettel can not handle pressure is shortsighted as Vettel 2012 was in the same position as Lewis today not needing to proof anything and so he brought home the title after the biggest pressure possible being turned around in the first lap in Brazil. Back then Seb managed the "pressure" but as said winning his first title with Ferrari and for Ferrari after a decade without title seems to be a bigger step than another title with RB/Mercedes.
    So I am still not convinced why Lewis would do any better at Ferrari than Seb does...
    Considering the story with the radio excuses of Vowles I can only imagine how Lewis would react in a Ferrari being screwed over by the strategist every second week...Just looking at the last race: Seb made his way by Max, a driver not easy to overtake on a track not easy to overtake and the strategist did not only loose the position again, they have also sent him out on tires not suitable for the rest of the race. Does anybody really believe Lewis would have swallowed that without any further complaints???

    That said: I do not think Seb is the better driver (because some will read this into this post) but I also do not see any proof Lewis is, especially not by the amount some want to make us believe here!
     
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  10. furoni

    furoni F1 World Champ

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    Yes, and the plot was so well done that in the end, Mclaren tried to get Nico Rosbeg declassified for some fuel irregulrity in order to give Elton another place and the championship, lololo
     
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  11. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Yep. PS lewis even admitted to pressing the wrong button.

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  12. tifosi12

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    It might look far fetched from today's perspective but back then it was all the talk and a lot of people, me included clearly saw it for what it was: Stepney committed industrial espionage by handing McLaren the blue prints from the Ferrari and then committed sabotage by trying to get a white poudry substance into the tanks. He got caught and the whole thing became known. At that point McLaren had already gained so much knowledge and advantage from Ferrari that they could have easily be tossed out not just of the championship but banned from the sport altogether. They made a deal and the result was Kimi's title, where he needed a little bit of help in the last couple of races by some otherwise unexplicable "blunders" committed by McLaren.

    I was an ardent Ferrari fan back then and it was obvious to me what was going on. This has nothing to do with trying to explain why Hamilton didn't win that year. Couldn't have cared less. I was super happy with Kimi/Ferrari winning and quite frankly it was deserved on so many levels: Without the espionage McLaren would have never been in the position to challenge Ferrari to begin with. Furthermore Kimi had so many potential titles slipping through his hands because of mechanical DNFs while racing for McLaren. It was only fair karma all around what happened.
     
  13. P.Singhof

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    Hahaha... let's see what they reply on this one.... I am sure they will doubt the source and label it as fake news! Seems to work that way nowadays...

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  14. ktu

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    Am I the only one who doesn't care about Ham pressing the wrong button 26 years ago? Ham haters are getting really desperate now. Oh wait! You forgot Ham didn't strap on his helmet properly during a cart race at 9 years old!lol As Lewis greatness continues on to winning a 5th title, I'm just gonna sit back and read how desperate the haters get
     
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  15. P.Singhof

    P.Singhof F1 Rookie

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    How embarrassing... the group LH44 came around with a conspiracy how Lewis was robbed a WDC by the FIA and once proven wrong they try to twist it around as a "desperate try" of the Hamilton "haters"...That really sums up the way you "argue"....no arguments but always trying to twist other people's words!

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  16. ricksb

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    Like I said, I'm not a fan of conspiracy theories because they suggest that every aspect of what we see is engineered/manipulated (a la "The Matrix"). I just posted the video because I do think it aligns with what DonnaMobile stated. Maybe the car's computer was screwed up somehow, but it's odd that the "official" report was that Hamilton hit the pit limiter button. It very much looked like hit downshifted going into the corner and the car took a big dump.
     
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  17. ricksb

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    To my earlier point,,,

    Update: McLaren have explained what happened to Hamilton:

    “We can confirm that the temporary gear shifting problem Lewis suffered on lap eight of the Brazilian Grand Prix was due to a default in the gearbox that selected neutral for a period of time. It was not as a result of Lewis pressing an incorrect button on his steering wheel.”

    “It was a gearbox problem, and it went into forced-neutral and changing down seemed to rectify it – it might be mechanical, but we doubt it. If it was something mechanical, they usually don’t fix themselves. It could be electronics software – but there’s no evidence in the analysis to support that. Could be a sensor – but again, there’s no evidence in the data recordings.

    “So it would appear that the barrels that change gear went out of control – and out of control of the driver – and that’s probably hydraulic.

    “That could be either a very small Moog servo control valves that were interfered with by a tiny piece of debris or they are sensitive to magnetic interference – something generated a magnetic field which caused the valve to misbehave.”

    Hamilton did not admit causing car failure in Brazil
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    25th October 2007, 15:46 | Written by Keith Collantine

    Image Unavailable, Please Login The journalist who claimed Lewis Hamilton admitted causing his gearbox failure in Sunday’s race has admitted he invented the quote.

    Luc Domenjoz of Canadian newspaper La Presse said: “My mistake was using a quote by Lewis when I did not talk to him myself. I had other verifiable information and I stand by my report, but under the time pressure I made a mistake by using that quote.”

    The fake quote was later used on several websites including this one as the question of whether Hamilton caused his retirement was debated.

    The revelation that the quote came from a newspaper is particularly ironic in the light of Ron Dennis’s recent criticism of internet journalism. He said in Brazil: “I have said so often, the Internet has been the bane of our lives. This is an uncontrolled, unedited, source of information that is fed into the media.”

    And it’s doubly ironic given that the revelation that the quote wasn’t real came on the autosport.com website.

     
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  18. P.Singhof

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    Sorry if you took that against you, was not my intention. I just took your post as entry...could have been any other.

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  19. ktu

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    Show me a post where I said there is a conspiracy, I'll wait
     
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  20. P.Singhof

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    Nice try... you are not the only member of group LH44 and I never said it was you, but YOU are the one that tries to turn it around as it was started by "us". Look back and tell me who recently started all this conspiracy drivel [emoji6]

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  21. Bas

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    A team covering up for their driver, never heard that before! I'd think a driver would know if he pressed a button or not.
     
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  22. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    We can argue about the past. Today we have Ferrari not doing well and another team and driver not making mistakes. Anyone with an objective mind can say well done to the team not making the mistakes. I have no great love for any driver.

    As I posted earlier Vettel overall is not as strong as LH in terms of skill. Off track I could care less if they drive a Lada or paint landscapes. On track LH is better this year. Last year I was not willing to post that. This year its more than obvious between the 2 Vettel vs LH.

    FA is best and LH second. Vettel on a good day is 3rd or worse to me.
     
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  23. furoni

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    can't agree, on his day he's much better than both!
     
  24. TifosiUSA

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    Wrong.

    Also, it's obvious Hamilton is good, but he has driven better equipment than anyone in F1 history.
     
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  25. LightGuy

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    His 2007 rookie year was magical to watch. Perhaps my all-time favorite year as an F1 sport (not manufacturer or driver) fan. Or Nikki's 1976 year.

    Remember he was a rookie racing against 2 time world champ Fernando Alonso, in equal cars, and against Kimi back when he still had the stuff and in a Ferrari
    I still consider Fernando to be half a second faster than his teammates as he always has been and has stated himself. All except Lewis.
    And Lewis would have won the WDC that year except for FIA shenanigans. As a rookie. Mind blowing.
    Haters, stewing in their hatred, "missed" one of the all time best seasons ever.

    They probably hate him for that too.
     
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