488 Replacement

Wow any idea of what’s on that list ?

 

Not so fast! To me it seems more logical that the 488 replacement starts off with the V8 version. Then a year later the V6 then followed at a discreet distance by the V12.
Can't see them introducing a new model and the V6 together at the start of a new series...
Look at how slowly the new Portofino has come along to with just a conventional engine package.

 

V6 with 120 degree? Never heard any car companies built one like that before, Isn’t the 60 and 90 degree V6 is the best choice for V6 engine? Maybe it’s L6 not V6?

 

This is a good point. Not sure how they’ll rollout everything. Will be fun to watch.

 

let's try:
1 - new suv
2 - new 488 V6
3 - new 488 V8
4 - new 488 V6 spider
5 - new 488 V8 spider
6 - 812 spider
7 - 812 GTO/Tdf
8 - Lusso GTO/Tdf
9 - new Lusso V8
10 - new Lusso V12
11 - new 812

sill missing 4

 

New Pista & Pista Spider ?
Maybe Suv V6 & Suv V8?
Portofino M ?

 

SP1 and SP2 and a 488 replacement challenge series

 

Yes, the 488 replacement will be a 3.0 V6 hybrid (rumors say that). No idea about the top of the line rear-mid engine car (no rumors).

ciao

 

I said nothing about the timing, just what the two tiers will look like when the dust settles. A V6 hybrid with improved performance over the 488, and a V8 hybrid above that with a V12 level of performance.

Rear-mid V12 hybrids will be for the halo cars only, and no new halo car until 2022, according to the press release.

 

The rear-mid V8 hybrid was already mentioned in the press release a few pages back.

 

new mid engined + spider+ speciale+ speciale spider+ xx?

 

60 or 120 are possible choices (60 being the best), 90 is adapted to V8.

 

How do you define "best choice"? If you mean smoothness, the best 6 cylinder engines are the straight and the boxer. The V60 is still fairly smooth and is well packed (you can fit it in almost every car, whatever the layout). The V90 is a bit rough, but has a strong construction, a low Cog and great space for headers, so it's good for performance-oriented applications. The V90 could also be a low-cost option if it's derived from an existing V8. The V120 is an extreme choice, I don't recall a road-going engine in this configuration. The few V120 I'm aware are all racing engines, and Ferrari did some of them in the past (1961's 156 F1 and 1981-86 126C turbos F1)

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I like the tech talk on engine layout here. It has been my experience over time that if there are any experienced engine knowledge on FChat they don't usually come out to play.

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This is exciting

 

Isn't a V8 smoother than a V6? What if Ferrari goes with an inline 6, those are supposedly smoother than V6's and may feel closer to a V8?

 

While I would usually pick the 8 over the 6, if the 6 would weight 2-300lbs less, I'd choose it every time.

 

Can you link to where you got the bit about a v12 going into the rear-mid? I think that is an open question and my takeaway was that there was only v6 and v8 going into the "sports car" read-mid engine cars. Not doubting you - actually hoping you are right - but want to see where that came from? Thanks!

 

zero chance of an inline 6. No real reason to start with (NVH in modern engines is a non issue), all new design to pay for is another reason why not, and packaging/fit for another.

No, the trend it to smaller displacement engines with hybrid electric power addition. That gets to very low NVH. (and keep in mind we are talking about Ferrari's, not Lexus. Very low NVH is not the goal here)

 

I'm virtually certain the only mid engine V12 will be a front-mid setup - the 812S replacement - as they indicated no rear-mid V12 except for the halo cars.

The rear-mid V8 hybrid IS the V12. It will have stunning performance well beyond the 488.

 

Well I would tend to believe you because you were the first to talk of a V6 and now that's been confirmed.

120 degrees is interesting and good news if true for a couple of reasons: first, it means it's a brand new design (not V8 or Alfa-based) and two, it's a proper even-firing V6, unlike a 90 degree design which, like current F1 engines, among others, are not know for sounding so nice. Of course a split-pin crank could fix this but would compromise compactness.

120 deg. will also result in a lower CG and maybe, like in the 126C2, allow the single turbo to be nestled in or behind the V, with a shorter run from the exhaust ports.

 

another rumor: At Ferrari GT engines department today there is a sort of a new "Materazzi" , the 288 GTO and F40 chief engineer (and engine specialist). It Looks he is doing a fantastic work with this new V6 that exceeds the power request. And then the 488 replacement will have another feature that the actual doesn't have...

ciao

 

You can't do that - tease us and leave, LOL!