Sebastian Vettel

I think it is funny how you jump into defence of your buddy and like to represent yourselves as the victims of this evil and biased FerrariForum that drove you to these desperate measures, even when you sound like a broken record with these "Lewis´achievements" drivel that comes up as soon as you guys run out of arguments...

Just to remind you: we are talking about William, the guy who does not have a problem to rant against whoever he does not like, be it Schumacher, Alonso or whatever comes his way... the guy who does not give a **** whether this is "a dismiss of their achievements" up to lowest possible level asking whether Michaels condition is a question of Karma...and then all of the sudden starts to whine when someone questions the story behind "Lewis´achievements" and under what circumstances they are achieved. The guy that implies the lowest motives behind "the hate against Lewis" that he has to defend and thinks it is others "life goal" to do so...
Just look at the post quoted:

He seriously represents himself as the Robin Hood of the poor, unfair treated persons...And sentences like "Lewis is the best driver WE had in Britain" is certainly only because of Sid and me... yeah right.

You guys (william, ktu, atbnm3 and yourself) post whatever drivel pro Hamilton or against other drivers and one can be sure that the other three (if not banned at the moment) "like" it no matter how sensless it is. But then you think it is only the others that have to be fought.... yeah right

But I make you an offer: you guys stop to write that Hamilton-drivel everywere and I will stop to argue with you...How about that, I am sure ktu does not even manage half a day...

 

Just a pause to mention Vettel. He is an excellent driver. When he won four WDC in a row with Red Bull, he was at the top of his game in a perfect car at the perfect time...in a perfect team. Today Hamilton is in the same spot as Vettel was. But Vettel in now in the same place as Alonzo was when he was at Ferrari in the post Schumacher days. Management is not an Italian strong suit. Neither is work ethic. Their industries reflect this. Enzo ran his team like the traditional Italian city-state...his Pope was Gianni Agnelli at Fiat. Ferrari does not have the cultural history to succeed in modern F1. There are no teams today that need or want Vettel. If he doesn't retire at the end of this year, he will at the end of a disappointing 2019. The only thing that might keep him in the driver's seat for another few years is if Tesla enters Formula E and goes up against Mercedes, Audi, and Porsche and Toyota and GM.

 

Vettel is having a bad year with all to do in 2019. I still put it second in my ranking behind Hamilton (of course), just before Max.
Spot on regarding Italian management and work ethic, although some will say I am bias. I am.
I think Ferrari should have listened John Barnard all these years ago when he proposed them to move the Scuderia close to his Woking offices.

 

That was before the period they dominated the sport for almost a decade, and had a team that functioned the best of anyone yet based in the centre of maranello. I think they did ok. Nowadays, it’s a management issue, not a location issue. Woking isn’t all it’s cracked up to be, otherwise McLaren would be top of the tables now, wouldn’t it?

 

It wasn't Woking ! It was Guilford.

Barnard tries to influence the Italians by calling it GTO for Guilford Technical Office.

Ferrari didn't buy it.

 

I went by what you said, Woking. I never really bothered to read up on that period.... I

 

Premature I think. Although Seb's WDC days are over.

 

This year has been the best i've seen Hamilton drive. Very few mistakes, blinding speed in qualifying, passes on Vettel that has been embarrassing, getting results under pressure and staying in top form throughout the year. He is truly in his prime. I am enjoying seeing history being made in F1. After seeing him this year, i put him on equal terms with any of the greats. Schumacher was my clear favorite driver, but not anymore. It feels great to see Hamilton on the verge of winning a fifth title!

 

Remember you never pull for the driver, just the team... Ferrari. So drivers come and go with Ferrari. I mean they had a super dry spell for 20 years before Michael S. won the title in 2000. Always the Team.

 

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I'm one of the few here that like Ham, but to me, that post is more inciteful than insightful.

 

It should be a cake-walk for Hamilton to pass Schumacher's 7 WDC crowns.

Mercedes remains dominant.
Vettel is no Mika Hakkinen
Bottas is no Rosberg

Lemon squeezy

 

Zzzzzzzxxx. [emoji58]


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He could get ten titles in the merc, he’s still a ***** and it’s still only the car, nothing to do with the **** at the wheel


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Between now and 2021, Hamilton could indeed overtake Schumacher in the number of GP victories.
His score is 71 wins, against the German 91, I believe.
But, although the title this year looks within his grasp, there is no certainty that Hamilton will bag 2 more that easily.
We will see.

 

q.e.d.

And the "good and decent one" liked it, so krafty, it certainly must be our mistake

 

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Truth hurts doesn’t it


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I didn’t know we now referred to drivers by their nationality..... I object to that actually, nationality has nothing to do with the drivers ability nor records.

 

I have been a Ferrari F1 fan since about 1965. I am still a Ferrari F1 fan.

However I am currently rooting for Hamilton.

And do so with more than a bit of mixed emotion.

But what Ferrari need is another LEADER to arrive, a leader like Michael was, to bring in new tallent, to develop the car faster than anyone else, to drive better than anyone else, and to be humble all at the same time.

 

@kraftwerk: 1-month thread reply exclusion for provoking others.

@ktu: 1-month thread reply exclusion for trolling.

All the best,
Andrew.

 

I think Ferrari's solution must come from its technical side more than from changing drivers..

Let's face it, this is now an engineers championship fuelled by huge budgets.

The driver's share in the success of a team is decreasing year by year, IMO.

 

Wow, for once I agree with you but I am surprised that you share these thoughts as this is basically something you are fighting me for over the last weeks...
It is not the driver anymore making the difference (apart from within the team), neither Vettel at RB nor Hamilton at Mercedes!
Their stats are more the stats for the cars than really for the drivers...

 

I came across this before I signed on to the forum.
I am surprised you still comment on my posts; I have you on ignore for some time now.
So don't bother, to niggle me anymore.

I better tell you that You, daytona355, freshmeat, Moretti, P.Singhof and TifosiUSA are on my ignore list.

 

First I feel honoured that I am on your ignore list twice...
Second: only because you decided that you do not read what I write does not mean that one does not reply to you, because obviously others see it. And when you contradict yourself I feel free to point that out. Or do you think just because you put anyone on ignore that might correct you you get away with every post here?
And as you pointed out we have to fight the hate...