https://fr.motorsport.com/f1/news/reminiscences-ayrton-senna-accidents-verstappen/3213194/ Des réminiscences de Senna dans les accidents de Verstappen, selon Hill
Some nice words about Max here from Sainz - http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/25275188/max-verstappen-block-red-bull-signing-insists-carlos-sainz
That Verstappen deliberately didn't leave enough space seems obvious to me. It's part of Verstappen mindset to defend at all cost, and to cut across rivals to intimidate them. Well, this time (and some other times too), it didn't work. What is worse is that he has shown once again, a lack of discernment by getting involced in a tangle when there was absolutely no need to. He was on his way to a certain win, and he managed to throw it all away for a bit of posturing with a backmarker. A typical idiot, in my book. This immature behaviour was further demonstrated by the aggression shown in the weighting area. I think Red Bull backed the wrong horse in chosing him as leader instead of Ricciardo.
I love Max and of course I love his followers. And I got an orange #33 shirt. Last time I was at the Belgium GP Max was just up and coming driving for TR. Then already he had a devoted crowd of followers from the Netherlands. They camped out at the track with their national flag and Max posters everywhere. It was a bit like the MS crowds at the same track ten years earlier. I spoke to some of them and it was pretty clear what they think about his future. And I have to agree. Talent is hard to hide when it comes in such massive quantities.
Yes, many posts because this ridiculous, irrelevant, make-believe defense argument continues from the die-hard Max fans who clearly have blinders over their eyes. I have nothing against you personally, but cannot stand the crap I am constantly hearing from delusional Max followers who are trying to convince everyone else that their wonderboy just can't do anything wrong. If you want to continue to gush over your do-no-wrong wonderboy, at least be realistic about it. If I wanted to read make-believe, I would go and find some kind of Walt Disney chat site. Yeah, I can put you on ignore, but I'm not the one who takes this personally. You should put me on ignore, as I seem to strike a chord with you. For such a tough guy, you sure are sensitive to people critical of your posts.
I think Ricciardo would have been a safer bet in the long term than Verstappen. What's wrong with that ?
Really? To me the only one acting pathetic is you. A non ending quarel to get it your way. I said it again, you better start appreciating Max, the driving he does and the way he stirred up F1 since the moment he arrived or you will end up facing an long period of bitterness. Quite a few here did that already and now enjoy what they see. And true i'm a fan too but i'm not closing my eyes to hs stupidities. But i will keep faith. You seems to forget that this "brat" is just a21 years old boy with all the behaviour that comes to that age. He wil learn, sometimes the hard way, like a lot of F1 drivers did but went unnoticed. Max is finding himself on the forefront of all the publicity from the moment he arrived. Just because of his age he was called spoiled and arrogant. That never changed but the crowd of followers, even on this ferrari-chat site is growing. Simply because we love racing. And after years of boredom in F1 there's now actually something happening again.
Because winning a championship in F1 will not be possible playing it save. You need the best. Clearly this year indicated that Riciardo isn't the best. Simple. a nice guy? sure. Too much bad luck? sure but in the end of the day, on average he lost 0.3 sec per lap on Verstappen. Rici is a nice "Bottas". Unlike Bottas he doesn't want to play that role. So the only option was for him to leave. The minute Verstappen joined Red bull, Rici knew he would never had a shot at the title, he knew, and so did Red Bull.
Well, that's your opinion, and I leave you to it. But allow me to be different and not to root for Verstappen.
Sorry that I am not joining the Max Verstappen cult right now. I'll wait to see if he can mature. I truly hope he does. He's very fast, but his race tactics are some of the worst I have seen in the 30+ years I have religiously been following the sport. It doesn't matter if you are fast, if you cannot finish races because you keep bumping into everyone else, you are a dangerous liability. If you like to blindly follow people, and make things up when they make mistakes, then you are delusional, and what you have to say on the subject of Max has zero value.
I'm happy that you are happy Leclerc joins ferrari. lets reconvene same time next year. I think Leclerc is highly overrated and will be crushed.
Put it that way, if this was the 60s, Max Verstappen would be dead already with his antics. The cars at the time were far less forgiving to contact, and had a tendency to catch fire very easily. He is Lucky to race in an area where F1 is so sanitised and almost risk free, almost Nitendo like. Now incidents are analysed by stewards, back then it was a one way trip to the morgue.
I agree. And Hamilton has also benefitted as a result. How many times did he bang cars with Massa and then Rosberg ?
I remember sprint car racing in the days before a roll cage, just a useless roll hoop. Drivers were more careful about inner locking wheels etc. because it could be fatal!
I don't know, I didn't count. Could you tell me since you scrutinize everything? You must have kept notes of that surely ... since you are an authority on F1. LOL
I'm curious......what doesn't he get? You speak as if it such an obvious choice to choose Max over Ricci, and anyone who doesn't agree with that is an idiot, with your condescending last line in your post. Tell me, do you have to remove the blinders when you cross the street, so that you can see both ways, or are they permanently affixed to your head? This is a Max Verstappen thread. There is already an "Elton sucks", or something like that, thread........... Are you mentioning Lewis to try and take the spotlight off of Max? Why is it necessary to bring his name up? I think I know why......by pointing out that Lewis has maybe done something similar to what Max has done, and you want to make sure that everyone knows it. As if this somehow minimizes the tremendous amount of bone-headed moves Max has made in his very short career. He's already made enough for an entire career.
I just want you to know, I’m NOT a fan of Max! My young driver allegiance is with chuckle I’m afraid buddy. I just call them as I see them Forza Ferrari..... the only racing team and car marque that matters. Italia forever It’s easier to apologise than it is to ask permission
Watching the footage, I can't see why either of them got that aggressive with each other. Ocon had the speed to pass more safely the next lap. Max saw he was faster and should have let Ocon go.
I tend to agree. In Ocon's mind, he just wanted to grab the opportunity when he thought the window of opportunity appeared. Plus, his team telling him on the radio it'd be okay to unlap himself relative to Max most likely added fuel to the fire for Ocon during said timeframe.
That footage clearly shows that Max was at fault. It is as clear as day. He turned in on him when Ocon had nowhere else to go. That's "vintage" Max for ya'!
