Enigmatic

Hello

Can anyone find out what car it is? It was discovered in Brazil in the 70's. It is a Ferrari 212 with spider bodywork and LHD. A really strange stuff.

copyright : Colin Crabbe
Image Unavailable, Please Login

 

Probably 0198ET, a 225S, not strange at all.

http://antigosverdeamarelo.blogspot.com/2011/03/ferrari-225-s-vignale-spyder-1952-no.html

We have 0180ET which still resides here in Brazil.

 

I attach pictures of 0198ET and 0180ET. You can notice that both have 3 ovoid air outlets. The enigmatic Ferrari has two oval air outlets and a left hand drive.
Still strange, isn't it?

Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login

 

The conversion to LHD would be harder back in the day, but the alterations to the bodywork I could see happening fairly easily, especially if the car was involved in an accident or something of the sort.

 

I understand your argument but 0180ET and 0198ET have not changed in appearance throughout their careers. So it is indeed another car that arrived in Brazil in 1954. It too did not change bodywork until it was discovered by C. Crabbe.

The question remains valide.
Image Unavailable, Please Login
0198ET c : Belvisio
Image Unavailable, Please Login
0180ET c: unknow

 

How can you be sure the car is a LHD 212? Ok, so there is no steering wheel visible on the right hand side but there is no windscreen either as the car is clearly in bits. There is no bulge under the cover on the left hand side that says for certain there is a steering wheel there. The steering wheel is, possibly, sat on top of the cover and not attached to the car but the photograph is not clear enough to be sure of this. Why a LHD 212 and not a RHD 250?

 

Interlagos 1954 Joaquim Silva Ferrari 2560 cc copyright Gazzeta Esportiva
Image Unavailable, Please Login

 

Only for septic people I propose you a new picture
Image Unavailable, Please Login

 

Here's one with 2 holes, in Brazil, driven by Angelo Juliano

Image Unavailable, Please Login

Image Unavailable, Please Login

Image Unavailable, Please Login

What s/n is this?

 

0072/E...

 

Ardy, I agree with 0072E. This car is well known in Brazil and does not pose any particular problem.

As for the enigmatic Ferrari, I think it is an odd number that was most probably modified at Vignale in 1952-53 and delivered "new" in South America in early 1954. A great classic of the time. I would add that I am certain of the engine capacity.

It remains to be seen which number it is............

 

A new picture of this car. Copyright: C.Crabbe
Image Unavailable, Please Login

 

Unfortunately no answer to my first question....
Another enigma for Brazilian specialists
Car?
Location?
Date?
Pilot?

Image Unavailable, Please Login

 

There was a Touring Barchetta raced in Brasil in 50's : 0016/M...

 

In fact, what interests me is to know the chassis number of the Peugeot 203 which is on the right of the picture

 

This car is not 0016M

 

What makes you think it is NOT 0016 M?
It is a short hood Barchetta.

Marcel Massini

 

Could be 0024M,
Painted Image Unavailable, Please Login in yellow over blue for Argentina colours.

 

The charm of this picture makes us think it's 0016M but it's not. I am categorical!

 

This car is not 0024M

 

This one is much easier to find
Date ?
Location ?
Driver ?
# ?
Image Unavailable, Please Login

 

0117S ?

 

If you are so sure that it is neither 0016 M nor 0024 M, which one is it (post #13) then?

Marcel Massini

 

Location is Venezuela perhaps, based on the hats?

 

Are you sure? because the paint scheme looks identical! And i doubt there were many 166 mms in Brazil!