GTB may be more livable than Pista but very few DD these types of cars anyway. Also prefer the harder edged special version to get more sensation from the type of driving I mainly do and like most I have other cars to do the mundane dd stuff in. Carbon Fiber is not enough of a reason to not buy a particular model, plus CF is a majority preference anyway....making it easier to shift if you feel inclined. Pista will also see less depreciation than any regular version too so.... The word I've been told is 488's replacement won't be avail till 2020 anyway.... not that it will mean much to Pista, being a special model and, subject to less depreciation. Also don't see 488 replacement as being revolutionary in design other than perhaps the interior functions/features.
The 488 replacement Better be revolutionary otherwise they'll have their lunch eaten by Mac and Lambo
Can't see any radical departure. Ferrari is about clean design, not reliant upon bright colors and frills to stand out amongst the crowd. Also don't think they will focus on having the biggest HP number. If it remains competitive Ferrari will always survive on being a Ferrari
Now days revolutionary would mean completely new chassis. In Ferrari terms that would make it a different car. I think the 458, 458 Spider, 458 Speciale, 458 Special A, 488 and 488 Pista all same car platform technically speaking. Replacement should be new aluminum universal chassis from what has been posted which usually gets the revolutionary description.
Revolutionary can apply to more than just a chassis though.....such as exterior design/styling, power and/or drive train, interior design, MI and respective functionality... At the moment all we have is speculation.
The rules have evolved. Basing what will/should happen on what was done in the past is a fools errand. I was at a dinner with the head of Ferrari for Northern Europe last week, sufficed to say expect to see quite a few 'new' models at various price points and a general departure from the past. The game is/has changed..........
We have more than speculation. It will be on a new modular chassis. There will be V6 and V8 mid-engine cars. Some variants will be hybrids. The V6 replaces the 488 directly. The V8 is a new class of car above the 488 replacement. These are most of the known elements as of now.
I can't figure why they would not do it though. They confirmed they will have a new V6 and a modular architecture, so it's hard to find reasons not to put the V6 in a rear mid-engine configuration. They just do not want to call it Dino because the marketing is the opposite of what it was at the time of the Dino introduction. At that time it was thought introducing a V6 would devalue the Ferrari brand, while today it's considered the Ferrari brand is a way to increase profit on a lower range model.
A completely new car ( new chassis , interior , exterior +V8TT ~720/730 hp ) is an attractive offer as a 488 replacement.. The new hybrid V8TT top of the range will be a lot more powerful ( ~ 850/ 900 hp ) and a lot more expensive .
That "Ferrari is a Ferrari" mentality is old-school. Ferrari needs to be revolutionary or slowly but surely, the others will cascade it.
If for the 488 replacement they want to limit the price increase and improve the margin, the V6 path is logical. It's all very good to go upmarket, but simultaneously increasing prices and production volumes may prove challenging.
You don't need a dinner to know that many new models are coming, just read their quarterly results. Still, with the replacement of the 488, we are still a year off. Remember how the Portofino and 488 reveal photos were leaked a few months before their official reveal? We're not there yet.
Just came from my dealer in Geneva and the head of service told me that the 488 substitute is going to be lauched in Geneva in March. He also told me it would be a restyle and not really and new model. WTH?!?!?
a member here also stated that next 488 will be a facelift and a full replacement will come around 2020(?). My guess is The new midengined car and the new 488, both could debut at geneva and the 488 would get a minor restyling (like the maserati grantourismo) so it would not hurt that much of the new ME's publicity.
Indeed, they have totally undercut their 488 model now with speculation about the next model and the Pista. Why even order a 488 when it looks like it's already end of life according to all the threads on this forum? Comments range from it's depreciating like a rock to it's no good compared to xxx to it doesn't sound good, isn't as good looking as the 458, speciale or Pista and on and on and on. Why buy such a lousy car that will be worth $50k less than you paid for it as soon as you drive it away?
Has anyone actually read all of this thread, like I have? Ferrari has officially released a roadmap for new models on it's all new modular platform. There will be V6 and V8 cars, and the platform can accommodate both engines either in front, or in the back. And the platform is set up for hybrids. That's why I've mostly given up on this thread. Everybody's talking out their butts without actually reading what is in the thread. Read the thread or refrain from commenting. People are just needlessly muddying up the water.
They never give Firm specs on anything before official launch. There have been reliable sources on FChat whose past predictions have come to fruition that is what some of us are speculating on
