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Countach, the ultimate supercar

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  1. em42

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    Thanks a lot!
    No the colour doesn’t relate to mine which original colour was verde medio.

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    It is currently being dismantled. Normally on the rotisserie next week.
     
  2. em42

    em42 Formula 3

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    Thanks a lot!

    And it’ll be in good company, here with her little sister!

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    The big one is the original and the small one was part of a small series of 50 (mine is number 44) given by Bertone as a gift.

    Not exactly similar though, the engine cover details in particular. The big one is much sharper in feel.
     
  3. Rossocorsa1

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    I can’t imagine how anyone could see this car as anything but a total slam dunk. Although, I must say, while I prefer the restored color combo of black over black, it seems rather odd to have to paint a car with delivery milrs on it. If it really needed to be painted it’s a real shame they didn’t retain its production livery. A car that special should remain pure and an exceptional preservation piece.
     
  4. LC3929

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    ?????
     
  5. Rossocorsa1

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    ?????
     
  6. ken qv

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    “Museum display since new” and mileage 551, yet needs a new interior and a repaint?
    Something doesn’t add up there, but I agree the price is good regardless.
     
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  7. Rossocorsa1

    Rossocorsa1 F1 Veteran

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    I’m guessing it wasn’t stored in an ideal environment.
     
  8. LC3929

    LC3929 Formula Junior

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    Yes ?????

    It is not that difficult.
     
  9. Peter K.

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    So, what did this sell for? Have no clue on it worth. I would hate to guess knowing I would be dead wrong:)
     
  10. Peter K.

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    I hope you guys realize how easy it is to remove the speedo pin in the left front wheel hub. Or to simply unscrew the cable from the hub. Or, how many pins or housings were broken and not fix until it "had" to be.
    I, for one, do not believe mileage unless it is fully documented. And even then 10k could be put on a Countach, speed re-assemble, and brought dealer for service. My advice, take the mileage with a grain of salt.
     
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  11. joe sackey

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    #25586 joe sackey, Dec 1, 2018
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    Perhaps they realize how important it is to many potential buyers to have a Countach in it's original livery.

    Personally, I think sometimes it's easier to just restore the whole car, the benefit being that all systems get an equal level of attention and everything ends up being equally refreshed & uniform like a new car for a whole new generation. Done right, the car will then stay out of the shop for years to come, besides routine maintenance.

    Another Countach being restored, fantastic, please share images if you care to, as the project moves along.

    I think back in the era when Noritake had the works paint it pearl white, retaining the original production livery was less important, bear in mind the cars were worth much less then!

    Poor storage and improper care are enough to cause a classic car to require a total restoration, it's not always a question of mileage, and to underscore the latter notion, there are some beautifully-preserved classic Lamborghinis with relatively high mileage that don't need to be restored, not yet anyway.

    Telepathy is overrated, just say what's on your mind.

    That's good advice for any classic car, mileage corroboration by way of documents and the car itself are always key.
     
  12. geno berns

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    The interior color may of been changed as the exterior color was. Maybe the reason why it needed to be redone. Maybe Bill can comment.
     
  13. joe sackey

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    Per Bill & Symbolic's Ad:

    "After delivery to our showroom and shop complex, the vehicle was disassembled and the interior removed and the vehicle completely repainted and correct interior installed".
     
  14. Rossocorsa1

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    Thanks, Joe. If I read this correctly, it was just painted black, not a complete nut and bolt restoration.
     
  15. joe sackey

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    I plan to go and check it out.
     
  16. Lambocars666

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    And this is why you need a goddam' Lambo historian to help you, prior restoring a Countach to the WRONG color shade!!!
    I knew this was going to happen soon or late, and I did share the story in the Facebook group, LP400 Vintage Photos F-Chat thread and even on my Instagram to make sure everybody could see it!
    I'm sick and tired of seeing too many Countach restored incorrectly. :(

    LP400 #1120182 was not Black, the original color is METALLIC BLACK!
    That makes a whole world of a difference to me. And even more when you know how this car's story is directly connected to the LP400S #1121008. These were the only two Countach of the LP400 and LP400S production made 'Nero Metallizzato - Pelle Nera', both ordered by the same person.

    I've been contacted several years ago on behalf of the owner. He got one of the (least precise) copy-lists that describes the car as 'Nero - Nero' and thought that was it. Back then he had no plan to repaint it, he only wanted to confirm the original ownership. Still I told him to get back to me the day he would think about a restoration to original spec... And now, this poor Countach that once was truly unique, will somewhat look just like the 3 other full-black LP400 located around the globe (#1120104, #1120110, #1120152). That's a shame! You will have four LP400 Nero-Nero looking moreless the same, and the only one that could have been restored to its original and unique spec... is not! Vergogna!

    For those of you who didn't understand the confusing facts from the listing page, #1120182 was repainted at the Lambo factory in the mid-90s in a period-incorrect pearl-white shade over a ridiculous two-tone blue/white interior. Sure that car spent more time in the air than on the road, but the 551 kms could as well be from that restoration in the mid-90s rather than 1976.

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  17. Rossocorsa1

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    I don’t understand your cryptic messages. If you have a question feel free to ask it. “?????” Is not a question.
     
  18. cnpapa24

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    Interesting. Perhaps it’s not too late - they may not have finished the work?

    Symbolic was also under the impression that this was the only Nero / Nero LP400.
     
  19. LC3929

    LC3929 Formula Junior

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    I am sorry to say, but I don't think that I will ever ask you a question.
    To me, the question here is: did they repaint the car in Nero Metallizzato or not? See post 25591 by a person that I might ask questions in the future.
    Symbolic says that it is the sole LP400 that originally was painted black on black. That only can be correct if you think "metallic black". But they don't mention metallic black.
    The photo in the advertisement by Symbolic does not clearly show if the car was painted black or metallic black.
    But I tend to follow Victor, given the very quick repainting process and a first mistake that I saw in the sole :) photo shown on the website of Symbolic (see how the section behind the rear three quarter window is painted).
    Even if they repainted the car in metallic black, I would have doubts. In my opinion, you can't do it correctly in every respect in only three months. Correct means: strip the car to bare metal, do the necessary bodywork, prepare the body prior to repainting the car, and find the correct shade of Nero Metallizzato. And do the interior correctly.
     
  20. LC3929

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    Yes, probably. Are you sure?
     
  21. Rossocorsa1

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    Okay. You posted “?????” to me in 25579. Question marks tend to suggest a question. Anyhow, no need to be rude. As for the car, interestingly we agree. We both would much prefer the car is precisely the correct configuration.


     
  22. Lambocars666

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    I dropped them a message, to know if the restoration is finished and of course to let them know about the true Nero Metallizzato color.

    About the "only Nero / Nero LP400" fact, it is somewhat true, yet unprecise:
    There was a dozen of LP400 originally made black and they all had white or beige interiors except this #1120182.
    So, technically #1120182 was the only original full-black LP400. Still, to know it was metallic black while all the others cars had a standard glossy black is as much important.

    The other 3x LP400 I mentioned about being full-black nowadays were not black when new in 1975 (though they all had black interiors).
    #1120104 and #1120110 were red, and #1120152 was Azzurro Metallizzato. They were repainted black during the late-70s / early-80s and are still full-black.

    Again, to invest in #1120182 would be for those two specificities unique to this car: the only original "full-black" & only "Nero Metallizzato" LP400.
     
  23. cnpapa24

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    Thanks for the info, Victory. Yes they believe it to be the only black / black car, which you confirmed. Whether they know it was Metallizato or not was not discussed. The car would truly be stunning in its original livery.
     
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  24. Rossocorsa1

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    Great information. Thanks for the education. It sure would be nice have this car put right.
     
  25. cnpapa24

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    Agreed.
     
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