Miura, the original supercar

$ 200,000

 

another $ 200,000

 

I would say only $ 100,000

 

But, I will add that an SV with limited split differential, about 10x made is also worthing $ 200,000 more than any others…

an SV with factory dry sump is about $ 400,000 more than the others…

an SV in genuine top condition, which is even better than a 1st class restored car, for sure $ 300,000 more because original guise vanished for ever

 

Thanks, Olivier? What about RHD v LHD SVs? Do you know if the 9 original (all split sump I believe) RHD SVs had a Limited Slip Differential?

 

Steven,
I Don't see any difference for RHD vs LHD... as the market demand for RHD is almost non existing… when one is showing up, it is not selling quicker than a LHD...

about the limited split differential, Added value is same for both RHD & LHD...

The buyer has to understand clearly these différences, if he doesn't understand, he doesn't make any difference with an SV 1st generation… so he is looking only for the price around $ 2,200,000

Overall Miura market is stable, last year I sold 7x Miura and just 5x so far in 2018

The difference in prices you can see from auction sales is reflecting the shape of the cars sold

Good cars don't have to go to auction sales but remain in private transactions through Lambo specialists brokers like Joe, me and few others...

 

Thanks again, Olivier. Does anyone know if any of the 9 original RHD SVs had a Limited Slip Differential?

 

Interesting information. Thanks for sharing.

 

Bertone Miura Roadster was never done at/by Sant'Agata... nor presented on an official Lamborghini stand but only on Bertone stand… I would add also from 2x reliable sources that it was not even running when presented at Brussels expo in january 1968...

Speaking about the roof cut, yes it was not made at Sant'Agata, but it was made by official Lamborghini dealer "Lambo Motors AG" of Basel… the front and the rear hoods were bought from/supplied by factory "reparto assistenza" with 2x spares modified hoods…

Nobody snuck it on the stand of "Nuova Ferruccio Lamborghini Automobilie"... as it was agreed by Sgarzi, Alfieri and Patrick Mimran who was just focusing to be the attraction of the show for whole worlwide Automobile Press/journalists… the target was achieved and despite what you wrote, it is part of factory history !

 

To make you feel confortable, there was in 2017 the sale of #5050 by Artcurial at Retromobile sold for 2.388.000 € or $ 2,574,980 ( 1 EUR = 1,07830 USD according to record currencies markets) , #5050 was non Matching color (rosso instead of Luci del Bosco).

I'm also indirectly aware of the transactions of #5038 & #4930...

And it is not a secret for anyone that our good fellow Simon Kidston has sold few 1st Class SV in that league of $ 3,000,000...

Thus, it is clear such 1st Class SV are in that benchmark, despite the fact none of these were sold during auction sales, which doesn't surprised me as the SV in auction sales were not 1st Class quality for a long time… because 1st Class quality SV are selling only in private transactions...

 

Bruno,

As you were present in 2016, do you also remember if for the 50th Miura anniversary :
* was #4912 displayed among other Miura for the Concours ?
* was it considered by Judges/jury - was it awarded ?

 

Very interesting. I must confess that I did not know that SV's with dry sump existed (maybe except #5100). But I'm not following Miuras that much, so what do I know.
Can you indicate which SV's were equipped with dry sump?

 

You mention #5100... the one that everybody knew in Germany (the 2nd made & now under restoration again but in Italy) has NO dry sump… I have inspected it in 2015 at Mr Kux's workshop.

There is another one in France #4956 restamped over #5100 (the 1st made) claims to have a dry sump, I saw the sump 2 weeks ago...

Then you have #4878 residing in Belgium, I've seen many times.

Last one was destroyed, the original JOTA, bearing probably #4683 (not #5084 as it is a too late VIN number in the production which came after the JOTA was destroyed/totalled)
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Is there anything concrete that any Miura SV had a factory fitted dry sump?

Does 4878 have a dry sump or not?

Does 4956 have a dry sump or not?

 

Olivier
The original Jota was based on a P400 that was sent to the factory after a bad crash & returned to the customer with its chassis plate swapped. (Typical of Lamborghini at the time).

This left an “orphan” chassis to be the starting point for the Jota which of course has a totally new custom chassis.
It was given a chassis number when sold.

I am not sure why you suggest 4683 which I think is too early given the sale date. Although this may have been a number left over in the sequence used out of time.

Would be interested to hear why you suggest this chassis number.


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Yes, these are the questions. For 4956/5100 you might find something on miura-svj.com, I think. Olivier says yes, he recently saw the dry sump system in 4956.

 

I meant 4956. Is this the car mentioned as 5100 on miura-svj.com? Lansberg car? Dry sump originally fitted?

4878: same question. Dry sump originally fitted?

Jota is clear. But I wouldn't count the original Jota as a dry sump SV.

 

Olivier are you referring to the restored orange SV listed recently on Simon’s web site than removed? I was told it was withdrawn from sale. It’s also not in the sold archives.

 

No, to SV not offered Publically...

 

I'm not worry, I know we can disagree on history interpretations…

Back in 2011, Bob Wallace did not mention me it was post production, but dry sump made at/by factory to 3x SV… without mentionning any VIN.

How could he remember a VIN 20 or 30 years later ?

 

I think NOBODY can argue/demonstrate when dry sump was fitted during production or after production at "Reparto Servizio" before or after delivery to Customer…

as what is sure, it was made by factory at factory during Bob Wallace era…

another point, production file doesn't reveal it in the description, which doesn't mean again that a special work has not been accomplished by the factory in the Customer service before delivery...

 

Nice complement info, but I still Don't read in Bob's written note he is speaking about Dembiermont or #4878 or rather being fitted during production or post production…

All what matters is it was made by the works…. so we agree on the conclusion...