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Engine Rebuild surprise!

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  1. PeteyDaddy

    PeteyDaddy Karting

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  2. miketuason

    miketuason F1 World Champ
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    Man that’s crazy, good thing it’s isolators from any moving parts.
     
  3. Schulz308

    Schulz308 Formula 3
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    Thats rediculous.

    How long ago and how many miles has it been since?
     
  4. fatbillybob

    fatbillybob Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Professionals at work! Just like surgeon who leaves scissors inside you.
     
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  5. PeteyDaddy

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    The last reseal was done 10 years ago. When I suggested to my mechanic (who is Italian) that the factory may have left it he wasnt very pleased with my insinuation that it could be from Ferrari! ;)

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  6. yelcab

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    Well, take solace in the fact that well is of no consequence, which is very different from a pair of scissors inside a patient.
     
  7. Alex308qv

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    If it's a "Ferrari" rag it might be very valuable.
     
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  8. PeteyDaddy

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    Maybe put it on BAT. "1975 OEM Ferrari shop rag- fully restored" lol

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  9. Rosey

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    Wow, that's crazy !!
     
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  10. mike996

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    A mech at a local dealer left a rage in the "valley" of a Mopar v8. When the engine started the rag was immediately torn to pieces and distributed all over the engine, washed into the oil pan and blocked the oil pump pickup. :)

    I found a nice pair of side cutters in the oil pan of a car I was doing a rebuild on once. Still have them and their the best side cutters I own! :)
     
  11. ferrariowner

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    In the picture, the rag still appears be white in some areas. Hard to believe it was in that condition after 30+ years. On the other hand, I watched a video of a shop repairing a 360 that had an intermittent check engine lite and it turned out one of the intake gaskets was installed backwards which was blocking a good portion of the intake on one cylinder.
     
  12. eyeman1234

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    Surgical sponges have frequently been left in patients that's why they are X-ray detectable for many years now... but a friend almost died and it was discovered in him very late and removed!
     
  13. PeteyDaddy

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    That's the sheen of the oil. Believe me it's completely covered in oil. The back side is torn/worn so I imagine it was moving about over the years. Glad it didnt do any damage (from what I can tell)

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  14. ferrariowner

    ferrariowner Formula 3

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    Glad it didn't get wrapped around the cam or cause some other damage. Hopefully, that's your last surprise.
     
  15. Hannibal308

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    Interesting point to ponder: If an x-Ray is being taken to find a sponge, several things have already gone wrong. First, the scrub tech has likely lost track of the lap sponge, or the surgeon has dropped it on the floor and neglected to tell the tech. Far less likely, the surgeon has left it in the patient. Next, the sponge count identified that a sponge was missing and it was not found in the usual places. If the incision is open, we look everywhere it could be. If it isn’t there or it can’t be found, then we do an x Ray...in the OR. If the wound is closed, we do the X Ray before reopening. If a sponge is found haphazardly at some time after surgery...a lot of things got missed.

    Why am I explaining this? Because the idea of the sponge count is very similarly utilized in aviation maintenance. The kids that worked on my F-16 had a tool box with every tool numbered and tagged. Every tool that they used had to be inventoried before the plane could fly again. If they needed a special tool beyond the basics in their kit, they had to go sign it out and log which plane it was going to and it had to be signed back in before flight. Not sure if they did “Rag counts” but no reason they shouldn’t.

    Why not do this on these high $ cars? Break out a 10 pack of shop rags and count the f’ers when you’re done. If one’s missing...better go find it!
     
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  16. G. Pepper

    G. Pepper Three Time F1 World Champ
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    I guess since it caused no harm this is kind of funny. No surprise how this happens at the end of a long and exhausting project. Same goes for surgeons and sponges.

    In any case, it's out now. :)
     
  17. Albert-LP

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    that's a top quality Italian made rag: you didn't realize yet that it's a special (option) first stage oil filter placed before the oil drain hole. Next time, better paying to have it on the other head too! :D :D :D

    ciao
     
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  18. Lawrence Coppari

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    Found a shorty 17 mm crescent wrench still on my Porsche turbocharger's flange after a mechanic changed the clutch. On another occasion, the only time I ever had my Porsche teched out prior to a track event a CV joint separated from the transmission while driving home from the event. Evidently, it was too much trouble to check the 24 bolts. Had that happened earlier in the day on turn 12 at Road Atlanta after committing to the turn, I might not have the car today.
     
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  19. Martin308GTB

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    But be aware, that there were different rag manufacturers back then. You have to ask 'Classiche', whether it's Versace, Dolce&Gabbana or Armani, what's period correct for your car.
    At least, that's what I was told by some unreliable sources. That Ferrari official workshops have been equipped with cloth rags from the above mentioned fashion designers.

    Best Regards and Merry Christmas
    Martin
     
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  20. Saabguy

    Saabguy Formula 3

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    So it didn't block oil return? Lucky man!
     

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