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  1. per904

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  2. vfinaldi

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    Wow, so I guess it's pretty conclusive, from the original car photos provided, that P400's could have had either BO0088 or BOX0138 screen printing, regardless of series, as well as the other variants. Very good to know. Thanks for the input and photos everyone!
     
  3. vfinaldi

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    A friend of mine pointed out that 3216's screen printed lettering on the rear bank is facing the wrong direction-hint at a possible restoration of the cover. However, if you look closely, whomever removed that rear cover put it back on backwards...they only go on in one direction and the holes do not line up if put on the other way.
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  4. joe sackey

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    The most likely explanation.
     
  5. joe sackey

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    Agree absolutely.
     
  6. Olivier NAMECHE

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    There you can go, demonstrate us you have really the skills + you are matching factory Polo Storico criterias to become such consultant…

    and it is not a question of money… factory can reward correctly the right person, trust me on that !
     
  7. Lemacc

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    Olivier, i don´t need to proof or demonstrate anything to anyone. Sure, it´s not just a matter of money, but it needs to compensate that you change your complete life and living in the middle of nowhere in Italy . Also keep in mind the circle of skilled and knowledged persons is small.
     
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  8. MiuraP400

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    Factories need to maintain design control of their product. It is very unlikely they used either randomly. Most likely there was a production change during the production of the series 1 car. In this case between 3066 and 3216. Cars prior to the change had the old design, cars afterwards had the newer design. Sometimes there is a transition phase were you see a mixture of both, however the transition phase is limited. Design changes like this occur constantly through out production of any product. It is difficult and expensive to phase in all the changes at one time, so you typically see them phased in when the drawings are complete and the tooling for the new design is in place .

    Cheers Jim
     
  9. MiuraP400

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    Based on the Google search I did, it is stating the air cleaner assembly is compliant to Italian transportation regulation BO 0088 or BOx 0138 respectively.

    Cheers Jim
     
  10. vfinaldi

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    Now we are getting somewhere. Thanks for the info, Jim! If these are regulations then BOx 0138 would be the later (more recent) one because of the higher regulation number. Confirming that it would apply to the newer Miuras. I will search to see when that reg came into effect and that should assist in locating the cutoff date range.
     
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  12. MiuraP400

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    Odd non of the wheels are correct for the car. Most people put the wider SV wheels on the back of non SV cars, this car has the skinnier wheels in the back with the flaired wheel arches.

    Cheers Jim
     
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    Interesting color combo. Needs SV wheels for the rear and a correct set of tires. The two small spoilers on the front fenders can be original to the car. I’ve seen some Miura’s with them and spoke to Jeff Stephans who told me they are factory mounted items.
     
  15. miurasv

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    Might 3940 have have been delivered new to Brendan Bowles of Cardiff, UK?
     
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    #17341 miurasv, Dec 23, 2018
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    It had the correct wheels on it back then. I wonder why they have been robbed from it???? Also needs its carburettor induction filters. Personally I would not have offered/presented this SV for sale without these essential correct items, especially at the £2,595,000 GBP asking price!!!!

    PS. Needs to be in original colours too.
     
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  17. joe sackey

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    #17342 joe sackey, Dec 23, 2018
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    Sold by Joe Sackey Classics to a Texas collector @ 15 years ago, then again to a California collector circa 12 years ago, then sold yet again by us to Joe Macari in the UK @ 7 years ago.

    The downforce winglets are indeed original to this car, when it came out of Dubai 15 years ago we spoke to Bob Wallace about them, the very next chassis number, 5078, has them also.

    When this SV came from the Middle East, it was in it's Giallo livery, and the color-change was the choice of gentleman who rescued the car from the UAE, where it was stored in a garage and used as shelving for boxes, carpets and other household effects, resulting in dents upon every body panel.

    Perhaps, I'm not sure.

    We sold it to the UK with the original SV wheels and air-boxes.
     
  18. miurasv

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    Brendan Bowles was quite a well known night club owner (Flagstones) in Cardiff who had a GT 40 that he is said to have done over 100,000 miles in. Also said to have had a Lamborghini so thought 3940 may have been it.
     
  19. miurasv

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    Thanks. What about the front wheels and the shroud around the distributor? The cam covers are black. The Joe Macari sales advert doesn't state that this SV has Air Conditioning which is a big plus for it. They need me working there!!!
     
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  20. joe sackey

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    I'm guessing this car is wearing the wheels of a Miura P400 or S that he also has whilst it's wheels are being refinished.
     
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    #17346 miurasv, Dec 23, 2018
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    They could have stated the wheel situation whatever that may be on the website. Did they think nobody would notice? Actually, they should not have advertised this car until all these details were right. Attention to detail is imperative.
     
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  22. joe sackey

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    Steven, agreed on all, but FWIW, as is often the case, they don't care.
     
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    #17348 geno berns, Dec 23, 2018
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    Joe the winglets are rare factory items I assume since not many Miuras have them. Are they made of aluminum? Jeff’s Miura S which is an unrestored car has them. Is it safe to say that this is the very first time Lamborghini’s attemp in using any airdonamic gadgets with the utilization of a spoiler? Pre Countach and Diablo spoiler treatment that greatly grew in size.
     
  24. xs10shl

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    Some US-Specification SVs were delivered with narrow rear wheels. I've seen pictures of two examples delivered that way, including mine. Couldn't tell you why - no idea.
     
  25. miurasv

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    #17350 miurasv, Dec 23, 2018
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    This was a temporary thing I believe and discussed in this thread with pictures due to a supply problem of the 9 inch rear wheels. This car has 4 wrong wheels. It is not a US car. Are you suggesting it is correct?

    Many congratulations to you on owning one of the most beautiful cars ever made. A very special car and a genuine work of art.
     
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