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488 Pista Paint Problems

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  1. Nel1

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    If paint might chip / come off easily, any concerns when pulling off the clear bra when it’s time to replace it?


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  2. Solid State

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    This is an example where adding a film would be a disaster down the road. If the wet film did not have enough friction to reveal the poor paint adhesion then certainly upon eventual removal most of the paint would come off with the film and by then the warrantee would be up and you'd be out of luck. It could be several reasons why the paint is not sticking including repaint at the port facility which occurs at a higher rate than owners are aware of. Have the whole car tested and don't put any film on yet.
     
  3. Johnnugget

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    I would never ever add a precut kit on a car. Always handcutted pieces with turned edges so there will be no small spaces where stones could still damage the paint.

    The big question now is:
    If the paint comes off that easily - what will happen when you have to exchange or remove pieces of a paint protection film? Will it peel off the paint from the parts? This even happens quite often with regular paint.
     
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  4. Gh21631

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    Congrats on the cars. Could it be possible Ferrari rushed the process in order to get cars out to make numbers? Paint issues with Ferrari is fairly common across all models. This is not unique. Hopefully they rectify it for you in the most appropriate way.
     
  5. 09Scuderia

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    #30 09Scuderia, Dec 25, 2018
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    you guys are a little off the rails on this. Rock chips happen....just put on a clear bra. No conspiracy going on. No repaints at the port. Just simple rock chips and are easily touched up.
     
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  6. Ferrari 360 CS

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    Well from what I read the paint is coming off by merely touching it. Which suggest a problem greater than chips, sounds to me like the bumper was re sprayed and the paint didn't cure properly.
     
  7. bobbyd

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    Can't expect everything for $500K can you?

    Paint on our new Toyota Highlander is perfect.....

    Another reason I'm keeping my current Speciale -- tired of all the F car BS.

    Good luck with your Pista's.
     
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  8. Gh21631

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    maybe you didnt read his post
     
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  9. Coincid

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    How is this situation even tolerable. This is a serious indication of a real problem. Paint flaking off simply by touching it. Quality control issues beyond the pale.
     
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  10. Ferrari 360 CS

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    My guess is a bumper re spray in the US...
     
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  11. boobernackle

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    If a repair does not exceed a certain percentage of MSRP on a new car and in no way impairs its functionality and safety, a dealer is not required to disclose it.

    The percentage varies in the USA based on each state. This bumper was likely touched up during shipping and that's why it's rubbing off. If it were resprayed, then it would include a clear coat too, and paint wouldn't rub off.
     
  12. Mn-0127

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    Isn’t this for sale at BJ motor in houston/tomball area? Asking 240k over msrp? Nice specs i heard the owner got ahold of 4 pista allocations
     
  13. Thecadster

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    Maybe not legally required to do so, but certainly ethically required to do so...
     
  14. Thecadster

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    I totally agree with this ^^^

    Truthfully, I am not sure how I would feel if this were my car. I mean, it’s not, and yet I feel like throwing up in my mouth just thinking about it. I hope it’s contained to just the front bumper. If the issue extends beyond that, then it goes from awful to horrifying pretty quickly.
     
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  15. Johnnugget

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    The 2014/ 2015 Speciale had the worst paint and build conditions I ever experienced on factory new Ferraris...
     
  16. 09Scuderia

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    front bumper respray would be incredibly difficult...because of the nature of how the stripe is painted. The stripe goes thru the S Duct.
    The car would also be tagged as having been painted. Not good if you ever want to sell.

    Touch the chips up and clear bra. You will probably never remove the clear bra (these cars don't get miles). IF you did remove the clear bra (maybe a scuff or whatever) and the paint did lift, then worry about it.

    I had paint lift on many new cars. 3 MBs had paint come off, 2 Porsches...and Lamborghini.
     
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  17. Coincid

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    In ownership of 30 cars, including a dozen Porsches, Ferrari, Lamborghini, MB, BMW, Audi, Toyota, Ford, Honda, never had a SINGLE case of flaking paint.

    The idea of touch up the Pista, wrap it and don’t worry about it later when the wrap comes off is insanity.
     
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  18. 09Scuderia

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    Just looked at their site...car is listed with no info. (I have bought several cars thru these guys...great people) $240k over makes this a near $700k Pista...

     
  19. 09Scuderia

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    Our 09 Scuderia had visible DA sander marks on the rear quarters...under the paint,....all OEM. California T the paint was great, Lusso paint was great...etc.


     
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  20. SLDriver

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    #45 SLDriver, Dec 25, 2018
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    Yup, here in Canada it's a % of the total value of the vehicle. I believe on a 488 the damage could be around $50k and the dealer doesn't need to disclose it. Supposedly a majority of cars have some sort of damage during transport, if shipped via air the chance of damage drastically decreases. This is one reason why all Lambo models (excluding he Urus) destined for Canada are air freighted.

    OP, sorry to hear about the paint and hopefully the dealer and FoNA steps in and handles this situation in a prompt and professional manner. I had QC issues with my brand new 488 and dealing with Ferrari HQ was a PITA.
     
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  21. Dansage

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    Nope the car is currently sitting in NY
     
  22. 09Scuderia

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    so there are TWO for sale for $200k+ over?
     
  23. Dansage

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    From what I know there's 4 of them being shopped around anywhere from 175-300k over. I do know of one that sold in November for 350k over in Virginia.
     
  24. boobernackle

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    That's an entirely different conversation. Dealers just want you to take possession of the car and then it's off their hands. Very hard now to prove this came from the factory since they can just say it happened during his brief time of ownership.

    Usually it will be 3-5% of MSRP. On a Pista that would be thousands, and who's to say what a dealer could price out a touch up, they could say it costs $50 or $500, etc.
     
  25. boobernackle

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    1 person getting a hold of 4 Pista allocations is essentially a dealer mule flipping the car and working a profit share agreement.
     
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