488 Pista Paint Problems

I heard big numbers in Europe...200k over and selling. $350k over is new. Care to share any details?

 

Up until the time that FNA ships the car out to the dealer no report of damage needs to be shared. Ferrari considers any work performed on the car before that point as 'all part of the manufacturing process' only.

 

Not necessarily. In my case I got 2 but that's because I buy 2 of everything from my dealer for my GF and I. Our 2 pista allocations were with the full blessing of FNA since they let it happen.

From what I know it was a car delivered to Ferrari of Washington and sold to someone in Long Island via a broker called Refined Marques. I think the price was partially due to the fact it must've been either the first or amongst the first cars to land state side so the premium would be crazy....sort of like the very early GT2RS's that got 250k over but are now barely 50k over.

 

Gt2rs only 50 over now?

 

With some calling around you can get them around there. I've got a friend who picked one up with 150 miles on it for $45k over last week.

 

Hate to burst your dealer's marketing, but FNA did not "bless" anything. Dealer is open to selling a Pista to anyone in their territory. These brokers are what I was referring to as a mule, dealers are not allowed to actively market a new car outside their territory, so these brokers/mules are the loophole.

Shame this happened to you, hope your dealer works this out given your history of buying 2 of everything. If it were me, I would have them recreate an entirely new front bumper and ship it out to your dealer for replacement. It's perhaps the only way to get the stripe issue resolved that a local repair facility would never get right.

At this point, there is no way you can verify that it wasn't you driving it with rock chips over time.

 

Interesting, owner/salesman of BJ is form Virginia, and he did stated that the car listed on site is from NY. Anyhow, i hope you figure out the paint chip issue, that’d suck to have on new Pista!

 

Owner of BJ originally started business in VA, moved himself and the business to Houston years ago. He is not a new car dealer, except when he was selling new Vipers thru Tomball Dodge. I was one of the first to buy a Viper from him about 9 years ago.

 

Update: Culprit was misapplied paint at the factory. I'm not an expert but the explanation was there's a different technique for application of paint to carbon vs non carbon surfaces. Essentially, the paint was misapplied. Being provided a new bumper and hood by Ferrari. As far as I'm concerned they stepped up as they should!

 

My lusso paint was very bad. Needed a hardcore paint correction before applying xpel.

 

wow...that is big news. Thanks for sharing.

 

**** happens and they stepped up as they should. You would think by now that they would have a process for applying paint to carbon though. Kind of bush league in that regard. Must be rushing to get them out...

 

Its ******** - Ferrari sees every name on every order - no one gets 4 Pistas I dont care if hes Jesus christ...

 

where did you see a kit? No one on the market has one as of yet

 

About where Pista will be once Ferrari over builds them

Brokers are only paying $50K and flipping for $100K on GT2 RS. One sold yesterday I know for fact at that.

 

Clear bra for the Pista. My bra guy said there is ONE company that has measured for the Pista...only from the C Pilar forward. if you don't know what a c pillar is, google it. Suntech sent a tech to use our car to make a complete kit. I am told that Suntech will have a complete kit for the Pista soon...like in the next couple weeks.

Remember this, have your PPF guys double the film on all the really exposed areas. Behind the rear wheels, UNDER the rear quarter in front of the rear wheels....etc. Where ever its obvious rocks will beat the snot out of the paint.

Pistas are special cars and those of us who are lucky enough to own one need to preserve them.

 

Agree - Pista needs full protection and desirably shouldnt be driven on road before the ppf.

When Pista arrives it will be transported for ppf enclosed like the others, that way when it drives off the shop floor it’s ready to go! Best not to take chances with these types of cars!

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curious if you tried/able to get 2 tdfs?

 

True Ferrari stepped up but how is anyone ok with the fact that thorough testing of paint application on carbon surfaces was not undertaken well before cars would be shipped. This is a serious indication that proper quality control procedures are not in place. This situation cannot be compared to a recall of a possible problem a year later. The paint defect in this circumstance is obviously apparent immediately.

 

Not uncommon with Ferrari which is why it is funny to see some bash other brands. Ferrari paint is among the worse since I can remember.

Porsche and Lambo seem to do a better job. Mac has decent paint but panel fit is not as good as it should be. LT cars are much better from what I've seen.

 

There are currently seven Pista advertised on mobile.de (largest European cars website), from €390K to €511K - that's about €50K to €100K above MSRP, depending on configurations.
These are advertised prices (and advertised cars), and I suspect one willing to pay a premium over the already heavy list price could find a Pista without difficulty in Europe; I bet that people wanting to make a profit from a Pista need to sell quickly.

 

Totally agree. Meager pickings for flippers as the trend is to squeeze out any premium by ramping up msrps. I get the whole public company thing but I think it’s important to leave a little for the next guy when doing car deals in general as there is often a fine line between feeling good about a deal/purchase and having a bad taste in your mouth. For example I’m excited about the Pilota that’s on the way but over $600k? I’m pretty close to that line myself and skyrocketing msrps right when we might be about to dive into a recession might end in tears.

 

I agree. In my opinion too many new guys playing the game without true care for the cars/brand. Will see people exit faster than they came in. The cars from 20 years ago still give me butterflies and even more-so now. Same reason id rather buy a prev panerai over the latest special edition.


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Glad you are getting it straightened out. However, if it was +36 months in you would be SOL! Also, film should not be applied to very fresh paint. Best.

 

A fresh paint is if it is the next day after the car has been painted. Otherwise it is NOT fresh paint. They bake it in the paint camera after all... Until the car gets out of the factory and the customer receives it there are probably 10 days at least. The last thing I will call that paint is fresh and the clear bra has absolutely nothing to do with this problem. I repaint my cars all the time because of stone chips and apply the clear bra 2 days later and never had a single problem afterwards. That's NOT the problem.

Ferrari has painted this bumper poorly, which for me is minblowing. This should never happen with any car, not to mention a over $300K one... So many other Ferraris have carbon fiber panels, even my normal 458 has CF side sills and they don't peel at all after 7 years. And I don't see the Pista front bumper as a super hard detail to paint. A tricky one - maybe, but if the painter is good, there will be no problem to make the stripe or whatever without any issue.

Also the clear bra can not be overlapped after the edges of the bumper. This vinyl is very thick and in the same time not very stretchable and that's why it can not go after the edges of the bumper. That's exactly why they make pre-cut kits. However, clear bra is an absolute must on any sportscar.