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  1. titangolf

    titangolf Karting

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  2. Natkingcolebasket69

    Natkingcolebasket69 F1 World Champ

    Have you tried eurospares.co.uk?


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  3. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    Never sold as a separate part. It would be the same in TR if you can find a parts car. Most of those replaced were under warranty with the old parts being returned and destroyed so finding used outside of a junk yard has a very low probability. I would fabricate one.
     
  4. Rifledriver

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    Never used outside of North America.
     
  5. Natkingcolebasket69

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    Eurospares does have US parts too


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  6. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    Well the entire track assembly was the only way it was sold by anyone, they were a few thousand dollars, no one in their right mind kept them in stock and have been NLA for some time.

    Don't think they will do him any good.

    He needs to find one from a TR in a junk yard or make one.
     
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  7. Mitch Alsup

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    I would disassemble the housing and put in a high quality ($10.00) microswitch.
     
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  8. Rifledriver

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    Well he could but it isn't the microswitch he needs.
     
  9. titangolf

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    Yes. They didn't have the part. Thanks for responding
     
  10. titangolf

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    I found the part for a TR at Ferr Parts. The F40 is at Ferrari of Atlanta and they are researching to see if the TR part is exactly the same as the F40 part.
    Thanks for all of the responses!
     
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  11. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    I suspect if not exact it will be close enough to modify to make work. If its Tom he is very good and will get it done.
     
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  12. titangolf

    titangolf Karting

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    Yes it is Tom. I agree, he knows his stuff!
     
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  13. Rifledriver

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    To be clear, I would not expect the entire track assembly to fit but to only be used for parts.

    You are in good hands.
     
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  14. smg2

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    I wonder how unique this is to Ferrari, given the time period and regulations that required it then the airbags killing it off, a handful of mfg used it, Ford, Toyota, Honda... I think Suburu.. and that would mean it's in all probability a Denso part... wonder if it cross references..
     
  15. Rifledriver

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    Not Denso. I think it was Electrolux. I have looked at every other car I know of using that version of passive restraint and none were the same manufacturer. If it were common we would know so we could get parts. Surprisingly enough quite a few smart people have been dealing with these a long time including the guy working on the one in question.
     
  16. INTMD8

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    You just gave me a flashback to my parents big clunky vacuum cleaner when I was a kid.
     
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  17. smg2

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    Well that sucks, hadn't thought about it too this post. Really sucks as that whole concept was abandoned long ago. Thanks for the info.
     
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  18. Motob

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    I did seven Testarossa seatbelt recalls while working at the dealership. Ferrari has now run out of good parts for these recalls. The last two I did required getting multiple kits because each kit had a broken or multiple broken parts in them, so I had to combine the parts from multiple kits to get one good one.

    When the prices of Testarossa's jumped up, people starting bringing in old cars that never had the recall done to sell them. I don't know how much longer Ferrari will be able to do the recalls with no new kits.

    I am sure that you could rebuild the B-station on the F40 track if you can get a good one from a TR.
     
  19. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    Never had our recall done. It works almost perfectly and I didn't want someone R+Ring those fragile interior panels. Every couple of years we get another notice.
     
  20. Motob

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    On a TR all of the panels (A-pillar trim, center console side panels and seat belt track motor covers) are made out of aluminum, so they are pretty hard to damage during R&R unless you are a gorilla. The recall kit includes all new plastic clips for the A-pillar trims, so they can be replaced if they break during removal.

    The only thing that I worry about is if the new parts in the kit are broken. I had two kits in a row that had defective seat-belt retractors with inoperative micro-switches and one kit that had a bad seat-belt track. I have a gut feeling that Ferrari is putting kits with bad parts back in stock when they are returned by the dealership as being defective.

    The seatbelt retractors use Tri-Y screws to hold the covers on. I bought a Tri-Y screwdriver to remove the screws and inspect what had happened to the defective retractors. I found that the plastic housings on the new units were broken, allowing the micro-switches to not be properly secured.

    You are probably better off with your original seat-belt system if it is still working.
     
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  21. Rifledriver

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    The panel up and over the top of the door opening pretty routinely gets manhandled. I have had them off a lot but without that kind of control I had no intention of hoping for the best.
     
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  22. Rifledriver

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    Defective parts out of the box has been SOP since the cars were new. We were doing copious testing prior to reinstalling and interior pieces.
     
  23. Motob

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    Ferrari of SF has a test box for the seat-belt system that plugs in-between the ecu and the harness. It has leds that indicate the status of the microswitches and switches that allow you to run the seat-belt mouse along the track, run the retractor motors and solenoids. I found it one day while looking through the drawer of tools with the break-out boxes. I then later found a manual that goes through the diagnosis and testing of the seat belt system (too bad I did not copy it, as it is probably gone now).
    Both of those things made it much simpler to diagnose the system when it malfunctioned.
     
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  24. Natkingcolebasket69

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    Amazing knowledge!!! How do you know all of this?


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  25. Rifledriver

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    Every dealer had one. I never found it very useful. Knowing what component was malfunctioning never seemed to be an issue.Seems there were only 3 or 4 failure modes. It was really a matter of consistency. Once you had a full set of parts that functioned, would it work 5 or 10 times in a row.
     
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