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  1. Sky Hye

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    Same with vivid. Both made in China garbage.
     
  2. Sky Hye

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    Regular. Polish will wear off after a proper heat cycle
     
  3. Sky Hye

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    It’s not as high pitched. Decent sound but once I heard s-line everything else did it sound as good. Fabspeed was a little lower pitch.
     
  4. mwstewart

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    I had an un-silenced x-pipe on my car for a while, and whilst it sounded very good it at full chat, it was an absolute nightmare to live with for anything other than a quick blast for a couple of hours. I use my car for road trips and days out and it was just too much for that.

    Kline is probably the best option if you want an x-pipe.
     
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  5. Sky Hye

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    Kline makes good quality parts and Felix is very easy to work with. My 100 cell cars are Kline.

    Very good point about the valves. I carry a box of ear plugs in the Scud Not to mention my neighbors will hate me.
     
  6. ShineKen

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    #32 ShineKen, Jan 18, 2019
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    My setup when I first purchased the car. Full stock system:

    After the 1000 miles, felt boring. Definitely needed more ummmph. Unless you're breaking laws, there's not much to hear. No F1 sound. Felt like I was wasting precious Ferrari miles.


    My past setup I ran with for a few thousand miles: Capristo Headers + OEM Cats + OEM Muffler


    Ran this setup for a few thousand miles. Sound increased. More rumble and it did feel a bit more powerful. Was content with this setup, but no pops/gurgles or F1 sound. After awhile, I felt I needed more.


    My Current Setup: Capristo Headers + KLINE 100 cell Inconel Cats + KLINE Inconel Valved Muffler

    Under normal driving conditions with the valve operation stock, I did not sense an increase in volume over my previous setup. If anything, it might be a tad bit quieter, which is what I didn't want. It's very sophisticated, so if driving around in a quiet manner is what you're after, this will certainly do the job. I highly recommend against the 200 Cell cats or OEM cats with this muffler, because you can hardly hear anything with the 100 Cell cats. No pops/gurgles.

    When the valve opens (using stock valve operation), there is certainly a high-pitch F1 sound. However, it doesn't seem very loud, at least not from inside of the car. Volume wise, it probably is about the same as my previous setup. This is certainly not a loud and obnoxious setup. It is sophisticated. Perhaps a bit too sophisticated for what I was after. No pops/gurgles.

    I want my setup to be more eventful. The correct F1 pitch is there, but it needs more volume. It also needs to have pops and gurgles. If I can achieve this, I do feel this is the most ideal setup. Being Inconel, the system has great heat retention and is fairly light-weight. Not to mention it is beautiful to look at. I also felt this setup increased power and response to the point where I felt the car was perfect. My first thought was, "This car is perfect, who needs a Speciale?" The car just feels very adequate and balanced. It's the most perfect feeling sports car I have ever driven.

    I ordered a KLINE Valve controller, but I am having issues since it powers off the cigarette lighter and mine isn't working for whatever reason. I am hoping driving with the valves open all the time will help increase low to high end volume and maybe introduce some pops and gurgles. If that doesn't work, I will explore test pipes.



    *The main reason I am not satisfied completely is because I drove a friend's standard F430 who has AP Header + Straight Pipes + Kriessieg Muffler (setup to have valves open) and it sounds epic! Pops and gurgles all over the place. Almost perfect high-pitched F1 Sound! An EVENT just cruising around (not obnoxious loud). Only problem I had with it was I felt it could be a tad louder. Aside from that, it was perfect! Knowing how I am, I can't be totting around knowing his F430 sounds better than my Scud! :) Unacceptable!
     
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  7. freshmeat

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    Once upon a time I had a kreissieg catback valve setup w oem headers and oem cats...

    The sound was very “sharp” to my ears, it actually gave me migraines. It also retained the same, if not more, heat as the oem muffler box (I measured).

    Not discussed in this thread but have been in many other older threads is the preservation the engine bay carbon panels. Preserving their longevity was a consideration I factored in when I experimented with all the various setups so all that pent up heat in the engine bay from the kreissieg setup was a big no-no for me.

    Another curious tidbit worth considering is that on the kreissieg box and in the printed materials that came w it, I repeatedly saw a "this is not for race application, fire risk" warning...that played a huge number on me psychologically, so all in all I had this setup for a month tops.

    I kept the titanium tips though and those are still on the car today and holding up beautifully =)
     
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  8. ShineKen

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    #34 ShineKen, Jan 19, 2019
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    There was a Purist Group Toy Drive this past December in Socal. There were 3 RED Scuds that showed up... mine and 2 others. Don’t know who they are. One had a Kriessieg Muffler and the other had a Titanium X-Pipe. I was like, “damn, these Scuds came with their ‘A’ game.” I think it would be cool if our RED SCUDS got together and just made an epic exhaust video. You and Sky Hye included! The other Scud owners who showed up to Purist... you know who you are! Chime in and let’s do it!
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  9. Sky Hye

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    Signature James has Titanium X. did it have Gold aftermarket wheels?
     
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    Do you have a video from your Scud? Kline Inconel is great!
     
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    I was at the Purist Drive in my booth for Titan 7 & Funfzehn for all Red Car clan
     
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  12. freshmeat

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    What happened to the rear carbon engine panels? Careful w the kreissieg, that one also retains just as much heat as the oem muffler box.

    Oh forgot to mention kreissieg sound might vary depending on which level option you picked for the valeved system.

     
  13. ShineKen

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    I do not unfortunately. I was waiting to get my valve controller installed, but ran into an issue with my cigarette lighter not working. i will have to find some time to bring it in to the dealer to have it looked at. The sound is fantastic, but you really have to get on it to extract that sound. The Scud is fast, so I need to find a really clear and long stretch.
     
  14. plastique999

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    S Line alone is perfect F1 for me with top down in my 16M. Just perfect.
    I have Capristo on my Speciale and doesn’t even come close to F1. I’m
    changing it to IPE headers, test pipes and exhaust....selling Capristo.


    Sent from my 16M
     
  15. Sky Hye

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    Needs more loud old man. I’m curious to see what you think of mine. When Ronnie is in town let’s do GMR


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  16. obbob

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    Capristo always has had the lowest pitch. I believe it's the only big aftermarket exhaust brand for Ferrari that does not use an X-pipe.

    For Speciale, IPE (most popular) is the highest pitch brand, followed by Novitec and Kline. Loudest is most likely FI or IPE. The latter two are Taiwanese made if that's something you care about.
     
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  17. freshmeat

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    #43 freshmeat, Jan 29, 2019
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    The full Capristo system (header, cat, catback) is lower pitch also partly because their header design is 4-2-1, from my personal tinkering w various setups I've come to find that the f1-style equal length 4-1 layout to 100-300cel cat to x-pipe provides the best pitch, particularly in the mid-high range.
     
  18. jo.e

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    The sound with the 4in1 iPE headers were more brutal than my Capristo now, but the performance from the Capristo headers are much better!
     
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    I removed my carbon engine panels because I'm still in the middle of wiring the the KLINE Valve controller. I'll put it back when it's all said and done.
     
  20. ShineKen

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    Ironically, for the F355, F1 pitch is less with a 4-1 header over the stock header or any other 4-2-1 variation, such as Tubi headers.

    The only Capristo exhaust that has a true F1 sound is the one for the F355. For any other car, it's meh... I would say that's Capristo's claim to fame tbh.
     
  21. ShineKen

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    How about a Japanese brand most have never heard of? Don't underestimate the Japanese when it comes to making exhaust products.

    Brilliant.

    https://www.ekimani.com/car/post-19/

    http://bond-diary.jp/bond2/2015/04/12/458-speciale/



     
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  22. Flea7

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    Ken, with the controller, just make sure to insulate the wires from the heat and insulate the controller.

    I made my lines longer with silicone jacketed wire with additional insulated sleeves. This protects and extend the controller away from the heat.
    Then, I wrapped the controller itself with a heat insulation used by welders called "TIG finger".

    No problems with the Inconel wireless controller function what so ever!
     
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  23. plastique999

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    GMR Anytime dude!
    I’d like to compare my S line alone to your S line with 200 cell Cats.

    Yes, I am looking for highest pitch and loudest on Speciale!


    Did you have IPE headers, test pipes and exhaust?
    When you say brutal....as in good high pitch?



    Sent from my 16M
     
  24. jo.e

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    O had iPE headers, 200 cell cats and iPE muffler. After that with the stock muffler. For me the iPE headers are louder, but the Capristo have the best performance.
     
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