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Question regarding low / dead battery

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  1. basscapital

    basscapital Karting

    Jan 10, 2018
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    Hello, I'm the owner of a 2007 F430...I've never had any issues until now. Here are the two issues, perhaps you'll be able to help:

    1. I always plug in the OEM Battery Tender Charger when I know that the car will be sitting for over a day or so. Before the tender would show green after the battery was charged, however the past six months the unit is only red and never green anymore. The car would always start. Is there something wrong with my battery of the Tender?

    2. I'm in the Northern Illinois area and with the weather I haven't started my car in about three weeks. We had some low temperatures and my garage isn't heated. I went to start the car a few days ago and its almost turned over but went into a clicking noise. I'm not sure if this was a mistake but I removed the panel behind the drivers side seat and connected a Rapid charger (old cheaper unit I had) and everything powers on but the car still wont turn over. I'm thinking it's not getting enough juice...would it be safe to jump the car from my primary vehicle or should I have the car towed over to the Ferrari dealership?

    Any advice would be appreciated.

    Alan
     
  2. flash32

    flash32 F1 Veteran

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    I would not play with jumping etc .. if battery is over 5 yeara old ..just get a new one and avoid risking any damage to the sensitive electronics

    Once you replace follow procedure to relearn ecu in owners manual



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  3. Rosso328

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    I’m no expert, but I wouldn’t jump start the car. Too many stories of fried electronics.

    Ideal solution is to remove the battery, fully charge out of the car, reinstall and go from there. On the other hand, once you have the battery out, why not install a new one? It’s not a huge expense, and it will have to be replaced at some point anyway.
     
  4. basscapital

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    A new battery was installed when I purchased the car December 2017
     
  5. flash32

    flash32 F1 Veteran

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    As mentioned above .. then disconnect battery and do a full charge without having anything connected to battery ..



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  6. MalcQV

    MalcQV F1 Rookie

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    You may have an interior light on. Boot (trunk) perhaps. I had this on another Italian car (Alfa). The light should eventually go green.
    Whatever it is there is probably a drain somewhere on the car. I guess the battery tender might be faulty but my first port of call would be to check a current drain with a multimeter.
     
  7. daytona355

    daytona355 F1 World Champ
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    Don’t be surprised if the battery has died, I’ve found with some of my cars over the years, they just get through them, almost like they are a consumable. I know I had two new batteries while I owned a F430 spider, and I didn’t have it that long, maybe three years?.

    Never jump start a Ferrari, or any other special car really... charge or replace the battery, leave the battery connected with nothing switched on for at least 20 minutes to allows the systems to wake up and boot correctly, then crank. Should start straight away.

    Trickle chargers are great, but it does make me wonder whether, like a laptop, if you have them on constant charge, even a trickle, maybe the heat within the battery slowly kills it... better to put it on if you aren’t going to drive it for more than three or four days, and otherwise, let the alternator charge it through driving normally..
     
  8. G. Pepper

    G. Pepper Three Time F1 World Champ
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    I replace them every three years regardless. They don't last long, especially if you are a seasonal driver and have them on the tender a lot.

    Also, not all batteries are created equal. I use only Interstate.
     
  9. robert biscan

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    Just replaced my battery in my 16M which is 10 years old. Always on a tender when stored. My Rolls battery died after 2 years and always used the tender.
     
  10. colombo2cam

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    just as a precaution - make sure the charger is disconnected. Whenever a charger does not reach charge (stays red) for a few days there is an issue. Whether it turns out to be the charger or the battery it should be disconnected as it could be a fire hazard either by the battery or the charger overheating. In my back yard mechanics opinion.
     
  11. vrsurgeon

    vrsurgeon F1 World Champ
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    Keep the charger on it but buy a new battery. Everyone thinks they should last longer than they do. Replace every three years.
     
  12. basscapital

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    Thank you all for the help! I connected a trickle charger directly to the battery last night and my baby turned over right away in the morning. Turned her off and came back in 30 minutes and she once again turned over. The battery that was installed by the dealer when I purchased the car December 2017 doesn't seem to have any brand on it, seems like a generic battery. I'm still going to let the dealer take a look to make sure everything is fine. The good news is that I wont need a flatbed tow truck hauling the car to the dealer...what does that even cost? I'm thinking $400-$500 and there's always a chance they damage the car.
     
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  13. G. Pepper

    G. Pepper Three Time F1 World Champ
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    My dealer - and I think most dealers do this - has a flatbed guy who knows Ferraris well. Have your tow hook ready if you ever need it.

    Like I said before, I use Interstate batteries and have had good luck with them. After six months, one developed a dead cell, and they replaced it under warranty no questions asked.
     
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  14. basscapital

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    Luckily she's starting up on her own now so I wont need the tow.

    Do you swap out your own battery or let the dealer handle it? I'm somewhat handy and it doesn't seem that difficult. I'm aware that the battery cut off switch located in the trunk needs to be switched off.
     
  15. G. Pepper

    G. Pepper Three Time F1 World Champ
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    I just have the shop do it every third annual service, but I could do it myself, I'm just lazy. :)
     
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  16. Nospinzone

    Nospinzone F1 Veteran

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    A dealer put in a cheap battery before the sale? Get outta town!

    When you have replace your battery, and it may be sooner than you think, I'm with George, go with Interstate.
     
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