I wouldn't not buy one if I didn't have a GTB already, or a Pista in the pipe. I mean you could do a hell of a lot worse IYKWIM! If you buy one just don't look at the back.
The first thing that hits you in the face is these massive tubular dash vents - squashed in between is a smallish 458 dash binnacle....possibly excess from the parts bin....shrunk to fit. It's like these massively obtrusive vents are the star of the show, making the whole dash look a cluster****. You could take your eye out with one of those vents if care is not exercised....they are like canons protruding too far into the occupant space. On the up side at least they got the paddles right finally. They would have been far better off leaving the dash as it was and just shoehorning a touchscreen in somewhere..
Yes competition is great and I don't negate any other brands, THAT is my point! All the brands being mentioned make great cars that appeal to different people depending on what priorities they are looking for out of such cars. So why berate Ferrari for producing something that in your opinion doesn't live up to the standard of the 720 or whatever other car is the perceived benchmark flavour of the month. The equation is extremely simple, you buy what you like and don't buy what doesn't appeal. Bashing any car from the comfort of an armchair based on headline stats just borders of being childish, especially at the current performance levels the game is being played. Am I to assume here that you were disappointed with your test drive of the F8?
Hmmm The 488 chassis is better than the 720’s, more progressive, benign and readable. The 488 motor is better than the 720 with less lag, greater respone and a better sound. The 488 build quality and reliability and aftersales is in a completely different planet. This isn’t delusional, this is the real experience of real people who live and breathe just like you. Damping/body control about equal. Pretty Impressive given the 488 was designed half a generation behind the 720 and itself is a 458 rework. No doubt the F8 will be better again in all respects. And be better in these areas over a 720 by an even greater margin. By all accounts the Pista engine is a masterpiece, in a different league to the ever so slightly dull and uninspiring Mclaren powerplant. To summarise we might also add that straight line speed is only one metric of a car and incresingly as time marches on, one of the less interesting facets I would say. Unless of course you happen to be a straight line junkie who hasn’t the first clue as to what this driving malarkey is all about .
Because the other cars were already produced years before the F8. Why is the F8 not progressing BEYOND the capabilities of older competitors? Frankly, had McLaren and Lamborghini not produced the 720S nor the Huracan Performante, Ferrari wouldn't have bothered with the F8. Those cars were the reason that Ferrari was FORCED to quickly rehash a 10 year old platform to buy it time to release their true 488 replacement. The point is not to bash the F8 per se; it really is to bash Ferrari proper for being so complacent over the last generation and now trying to play catch up. Listen, I'm a 488 owner. I bought and spec'd one brand new. I've owned 6 Ferraris prior, 328, two 355s, 360 spider, Testarossa, 575 Maranello. I love the brand; however, I don't cloud reality. Ferrari was lazy...the others surpassed it, now it's playing catch up...I call it what it is.
Correct. Straight line speed is only one metric of a car. I own a 488 and I agree with your laurels. However, the 720S was voted performance car of the year not only for its straight line speed; it was for the sum of its parts... To generalize, If the 720S and Huracan didn't exist, the F8 wouldn't have been made.
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Same characters ruining yet another thread with all their endless bickering about Mac vs Ferrari. Constantly arguing back and forth over small remarks in each other’s posts...and we have to skim through it all to read posts by sensible people. I wish Yin would permaban the whole lot of you.
Let's rephrase....it's bickering about Ferrari vs. complacent Ferrari. The Mac and Lambo were just examples of why/what/how.
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I see where you are coming from and, of course, you are entitled to your opinion. I was just commenting on the lunacy of this place, where every time a Ferrari is unveiled gets crucified, but when it is replaced, is revered.
This is nonsense. F8 would have been in planning before 720 launch. It is clearly a car designed to allow room for manoeuvring the whole range to move into the hybrid era. And that has been planned for a very long time - current euro emissions legislation has been indicated for around a decade so there is nothing ‘quickly rehashed’ about any of this. The very last thing Ferrari (or any manufacturer) are being is ‘lazy’ at the moment. They are all being pushed to breaking point by the legislation with chaos going on behind the scenes due to ‘hasty’ introduction of WLTP and RDE, in addition to the new emissions standards, which have been forced on the industry quicker than usual due to the VW cheating scandal. Lazy would be to not bother doing the F8 at all and say “we’ll keep the 488 going for another 18 months” or “screw Pista customers, we’ll just produce a shedload of those to bridge the gap” but they didn’t. F8 is a sensible approach to an acute business problem. The last time they did this was 512M and that was only to allow them to develop a completely new engine, platform and layout for the V12 series. Now they have to introduce another model range (BB), a completely new engine type (V6) and a completely new drive system (hybrid) for multiple models. How can you say you don’t cloud reality if you don’t seem to be aware of it?
That's true, mine was just an example of something a little more simple and clean (made in the 90s, certainly not up to the industry aero standards in 2019). Also the four exhaust pipes: incredibly cool but I guess there's a technical limitation that make them difficult to introduce. In any case, I still can't wait to see one in person.
Lamborghini had to up their game when the 720S was introduced. Their answer was the Performante. Ferrari had to do the same low and behold the Pista. To stimulate more sales for stale models, the EVO appears slightly prior to the introduction of the F8. Both new models designed to be street oriented versions of the track centric models preceding them. McLaren followed a similar path with the 600LT being their track version of the 570S. Next in line is the track version of the 720S. In 2022-3, all the companies will then introduce their hybrid super cars. It is vividly clear that the 3 players are vying with each other to maintain and expand their customer base. Again, car enthusiasts are the beneficiary of this intense competition.
Straight line speed is such an irrelevant metric. The only place you can do this safely is on a track (please no one ever do 300km/hr plus on a public road). With my 488 Challenge, with shorter gearing (can red line first 4 gears in 6 seconds) even on some of the longest straights you can’t get there. Was at COTA recently and that has one of the longest straights and top speed was 170mph at most at the end of the back straight before throwing out the anchors.
