355 Dave Wins!

Ha!

Nothing like that brutal 1st to second shift at redline. I swear, I often think the car is going to break in half. Most times I chirp the tires - I've even chirped from 2nd to 3rd.

However, forget Auto. It's a total let down.

Cheers, Rob

BTW, I think a read you picked up a nero with roll cage?

What are you keeping and what are you selling?

 

So, you are keeping Red F1 and Nero with roll cage? BTW, to my knowledge, only one other exists in the US owned by Stan and I believe that was a Dubai car also.

 

The F1's sound amazing I'll say that....

 

during those WOT shifts with the F1.. are you letting up on the pedal.. or just keep it down all the way through..

ive only been a passenger in a 355 f1 once.. on during the very short drive, it tried to pay attention closely to the shifts.. and it seemed more then fine..

 

oh ya Rob.. don't forget to experiment blipping the throttle on those downshifts.. with the f1.. apparently its another dimension of enjoyment..

 

I laugh at the F1 doubters. The F1 system was the ONLY reason I bought two 355s. If the F1 system was available in a Maranello in 1998 I never would have owned 355s for 21 years. YMMV

For WOT F1 takeoffs, I keep my foot on the floor. There is no reason to lift ever.

 

In a manual gearbox, shifting while keeping your foot on the floor is called a power-shift. It can be satisfying but it is also a money shift.

 

Shifting with the foot floored to the pedal might result in a fast shift time or immediate power delivery, but doesn't result in a smooth drivetrain. The car is momentarily unstable. So fast shift time, slow lap time.

In a manual, if your timing is proper, you can shift without depressing on the clutch pedal. You do have to let off the gas pedal a lil, but once mastered, results in a very smooth shift and drivetrain stability. Theoretically, for smooth and fast driving, you're not supposed to feel any shifts. The less you or your passenger feels, the more you have mastered it and the faster you will be on track.

 

Rob.....exactly. Its really incredible. A WOT shift above 5000 rpm with a 355 F1 is one of those moments that the difference is so awesome compared to the norm that you laugh out loud with childlike laughter. That shift is what that car is all about.

 

Give me more details i forgot about this.

 

???? You hold your foot down and upshift near the redline as needed??? I don't understand your question.

Are you busting my chops, Grant???

 

No no
I thought you were explain the drag start.
Someone told me before but dry clutches dont like drag racing but i forgot to try it once in its lfetime.

 

The clutch in the F1 is the same as the manual, why would it matter???

If I want to drag race, my 355 would be my LAST choice to bring. My truck is way faster. I'd go with my old Chevy I guess, it smokes a 355 every time.


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I dont think I said it was easier or harder on the clutch.
I just know from my experiences dry clutches do not like fast starts

 

I asked in another thread but there was no reply so I'll repeat the post here.

Having never driven and F1 car I have to ask what the difference is, other than a fraction of a second between gears, between a WOT shift in an F1 car and flat shifting (power shifting) a gated car. Also, not that it matters much unless you are drag racing, with a gated car you have control over engine RPM, drive train preloading and clutch engagement coming off the line. With an F1 what do you have but mashing the throttle?

The impression I get is that it's the novelty of doing it with the simple flick of a finger. I can imagine it seems more intense because you are less involved (distracted) by manually shifting and clutching the car.

It's an honest question. I'm not anti F1, just not for me. Aside from my 308 and gated 355 I have a Cayman S with PDK.

I remember back in the 70's street racing my Z28, flat shifting. Anything loose on the dash, like spare change, etc, ended up in the back seat. Today, I'm with Ken. I want smooth. That's one thing I like about the PDK.

 

John, don't you have an F1 P car now that you keep telling me the shifts blow your mind?

 

The shifts in the P car are nothing like flat shifting, and, I presume, nothing like an F1 at least in Normal and Sport mode. My car is not optioned with sport + which is really only suitable for the track. But in Sport/Manual mode, WOT shifts are pretty smooth, as are off throttle down shifts.

 

F355 definitely has historical significance when it comes to introduction of the paddle shift. Too bad more don’t acknowledge it. Another reason why F355 owners should be getting 5% royalties for every F1 Ferrari sold since. #neverforget

 

To try an answer your question, John - driving an F1 takes knowing the car. I don't make every shift at WOT and redline. Those can be violent and brutal. When you get the throttle and rpm just right (high, but lower than redline, perhaps 80% throttle), you can't even feel the shift - it's that smooth. I just do it by feel so I really can't put numbers to it. One of these days I'm going to get a GoPro and put all the Fake News about F1's to bed