What Is a Reasonable Price Over Sticker To Pay For Pista?

Maybe. I just think all the CF on the Pista should be standard in a model that is supposed to be lightweight and track oriented. There's like $100K in CF options that are standard on cars like the Performante, GT2 RS, etc.

 

Good points, and the other aspect to throw into the mix is the daily production rate for the Pista and the PS compared to what we saw for the Speciale. Ferrari can easily change the 488 vs Pista mix on the production line and produce more Pistas if they want even if they built it only for a short time. There's certainly demand for it.

Looking at the comments by CEO Camilieri yesterday, they could cross the 10,000 production level this year, and they are already tilting production to more profitable series models - so V12s up 20% while V8s up 7% from 2017. This would achieve their objective of increased bottom line profits while keeping volume contained. Just speculation, but we could see the same with Pista vs 488 production.

 

There are different things that might be discussed here:
- customers happy to pay a high premium to get a tuned 488 - I have no problem with that, but I do not see why they need to convince the world they detain some kind of truth; they are proud and happy to pay a lot, that's their right...
- other people trying to find some sense in the pricing, then there could be some debate about what is a reasonable price.
I understand for some people money is no object, so if they add a Pista to their LaFerrari I understand that; but for people making a choice (and that's my case) I think there may be better ways to spend the money.
Anyway these web talks are just for fun, there is no real stake in convincing anybody

 

All excellent points...

 

How about a Pista Piloti?

 

520.000 Eur

https://www.classicdriver.com/de/car/ferrari/488/2019/621373

 

USD $590k according to the site...

 

That's the best they try to get, I've no idea what someone will actually pay.

 

That ad is fake, the car image used was pulled from a video on YouTube posted 8 months ago, scammers or brokers fishing for customers beforehand:

 

The answer must now be a resounding zero, following the F8 Tributo just announced in Geneva.Price point expected just +3% over 488. Regular production car ,not Special Series. Very close to Pista on performance.

 

F8 is a regular production model so will depreciate similarly to other vehicles in that category. Based upon history, Pista being a limited production car won't be subject to the same levels of depreciation as F8 and, it is also not unusual that Pista be priced as the more expensive car being the special version. To expect there to be no price differential simply because the engine performance is much the same is being somewhat unrealistic IMHO.

 

The Pista as i understand it is limited by time in production,plus it remains to be seen exactly how many they build.It's a great car of course,but i think values will gravitate towards the F8,which is almost a match for it.

 

That needs to be seen before believed.

If I was a betting man I'd be placing my money on Pista even if I wasn't able to get one and was then buying an F8.

 

Laff

 

Yeah couldn't imagine Laffs prices falling now F8 is out.

 

LOL .Can't see the connection with Laf,it's a limited edition.

 

Pista will always have a better resale / status than the F8. I just feel sorry for the ones that got conned in paying extra / buy other cars etc. But i guess for those markets its the price you pay to have it.

Those that have the privilege only to sell them of latter well that's plain BS

 

We are talking limited cars vs regular production cars and you were referencing performance similarities as a reason. Never yet seen the two priced the same even if the performance is close or even better (in the case of 488 vs 458 sp

If Pista depreciates at the same rate as F8 then it will be a first (to my knowledge).

 

I guess he hasn't googled to see the price of a Speciale compared to either the 458 and for that matter a 488 over here.

Only 4 speciales in whole of Australia for sale. Cheapest close to 570 K USD and dearest Italia 300 k USD NEARLY DOUBLE

 

Yeah i'd be absolutely ecstatic if I could achieve 458sp's sale price for my 488....but i'd be dreaming if I think that's ever gonna happen....unfortunately. Nice to dream though.

 

I would imagine they are pretty similar to where i am right now.

The Speciale is a different kettle of fish ,the last n/a V8 etc which helps to keep it airborne.

 

Yes the good ole "last of" story keeps coming up as final defense and, there is some credence to it, but I'm gonna finish up here by saying as I originally said: "It will need to be seen before believed"! Meanwhile, I expect to see Pista prices to remain higher than F8, new and used, until proven otherwise.

PS. I know where my bet/money will be best placed.

 

I agree,but the spread should tighten up.

Meanwhile what is a reasonable price over sticker to pay for Pista?

 

Rarity is really what it is. We have less cars . Enzo if one comes up its in the 4 million mark. There will be more F8 's than Pista so same thing. It will hold much higher guaranteed. and ill even bet on that and I don't bet. Its a sure thing.

 

Let's wait and see on that, but I think one will at least hold (Pista) and the other (F8) will fall.

Well that all depends on how bad you want one. I know mine won't be for sale for quite a while.