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  1. Jean-Pierre Marchand

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  2. V12 Speciale

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    wonder what he thinks of Kimi........Kimi is a Ferrari world champion, something Alonso, Massa and so far Vettel have never done. Yet I always feel he doesn't get the same treatment had Alonso won a title with Ferrari
     
  3. 375+

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    How many times must we rehash this rubbish? LdM should discuss Ferrari's failure to deliver a championship winning effort in more than a decade.
     
  4. Doctor Mark

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    Ferrari loves to blame everyone but themself for their failures. Then as now the issue is a noncompetitive car.
     
  5. DeSoto

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    Both Montezemolo and Alonso are good at their businesses but Montezemolo is an attention whore and Alonso plain arrogant: they're always looking for a way to save face.

    Not very interested in whatever they say.
     
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  6. Remy Zero

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    Well he is not wrong. But then again he was probably asked about this, in an interview and spoke of it .
     
  7. crinoid

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    There is no “bashing” whatsoever in this interview. Nice spin you put on it though. He lists Alonso’s personal issues as being the third reason for not wining a championship for the Scuderia behind team mistakes and being unlucky.

    ...Can’t see the forest through the trees about Alonso? You don think there’s a reason no competitive team would touch him with a ten foot pole?
     
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  8. Etcetera

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    Someone tell LdM that FA won his championships in a French car, beating Ferrari and MS in the process. Also, FA left Ferrari on his own accord, and LdM was kicked out.

    Sour grapes is sour grapes.
     
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  9. NürScud

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    Exactly! The fact is that we are here, five years after Alonso left the team, with Vettel now at the wheel and Ferrari still can not escape the shadow of herself.
    Perhaps the problem was not Alonso...but the team's effort. FA tried the best out of the car every time..
     
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  10. SimCity3

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    Yes, but the FIA suddenly changed the tyre rules to f**k up Ferrari, as they were getting bored with MS victories.
     
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    Alonso, great driver in the car and on the track...no matter the car that's handed to him.

    Outside the car and track, he's a "handful" (and that's putting it mildly).
     
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  12. P.Singhof

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    This article lacks logic... LDM said that Alonso was in bad mood when he did not win and therefore his character was one of the factors denying a WDC with the Scuderia.... But if Ferrari and the Strategists would have done their job there would have been no reason for Alonso being in bad mood, so bad mood was not the reason for him not winning but the result. Alonso always delivered, same can not be said about Ferrari
     
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  14. william

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    You can say Alonso ended up screwing every team he drove for, and McLaren TWICE !!

    Always a bad smell lingers wherever he goes ...
     
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  15. Doctor Mark

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    Let's not forget that Montezemelo pushed Schumi out the door.
     
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    True enough. He became smitten with Kimi and Schumi had to go.
     
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    ...and Brawn...who formed the team that's currently kicking their ass. Blame it all on Alonso, though!
     
  18. Jean-Pierre Marchand

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    Yes. Brawn did a great job of buying the Honda team for 1 GBP and then selling it to Mercedes for millions.
     
  19. 375+

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    And Ross was a member of the technical committee which drafted the hybrid engine formula. Mercedes entered the hybrid era with a leg-up on everyone and never looked back. Hmmmmo_O
     
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  20. furoni

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    Alonso sucks....
     
  21. CRG125

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    Please tell me which World Champion was easy to work with? Luca was no Angel either, he pushed out MS who gave him 5 world championship.
     
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    It is fair to assume that Luca de Montezemolo has been far more beneficial to Ferrari than Fernando Alonso.

    As a team manager, LdM won championships, and later as CEO, he brought Ferrari to new heights.

    Alonso failed to motivate the staff around him, and apart from a few sporadic wins worked mostly at dividing the team, IMO.
     
  23. Finlander

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    Just listened to the Beyond the Grid podcast with Luca. I enjoyed listening to him and the conversation regarding Alonso, Kimi, Lauda, Michael.

    Also learned a little about his early years as a rally driver.
     
  24. nsxrebel

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    Fernando got the most out of his cars and into the points, even when the car was subpar. The same cannot be said of his teammates when they were both in a **** car.



    Ron Dennis screwed up the team by favoring his rookie over his 2x champion and then the team screwed up even more lying for Elton and defending him when he lied to the stewards.

    Alonso's second stint was not his fault either. The Honda was not up to par in reliability or performance, but neither was the car as we have seen. In fact, McLaren cars were already in hard decline by 2013 before Alonso returned. McLaren Honda also let Alonso down at the Indy 500. He was running at the front end on his debut, before the engine let him down. He had a clear shot at winning the Indy 500.

    If anything, sh!tty timing/bad luck screwed Alonso when he decided to make team switches. Alonso would have won in last year's Ferrari.
     
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