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Discussion in 'F12/812' started by dcmetro, Feb 16, 2017.

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  1. F2003-GA

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    #7951 F2003-GA, Mar 30, 2019
    Yes that must be the BB no other air intake even closely resembles it
     
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    Just an 812 in the raw!

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    #7953 REALZEUS, Mar 30, 2019
    Exactly! It is clearly a front engined car!
     
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    #7954 Thecadster, Mar 30, 2019
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    My first production photo just came early this morning with same “unusual” car in the back drop....hmm. It’s odd that it looks to be the same car as the car R J posted.



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    #7956 F12JAJ, Mar 30, 2019
    The better question is why is the factory using the same photo for more then one car and who’s car is it really pictured on they production line photo?


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    #7957 JTSE30, Mar 30, 2019
    Enzo does, 99% certain it is an Enzo

    if you don't know, the Factory will rebuild a wrecked Enzo, from scratch, they are that beloved by the Factory

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    #7958 Thecadster, Mar 30, 2019
    Granted, the air intake looks similar for sure, but the A pillar and roofline clearly do not. Interesting little mystery...what car is behind the 812, who’s 812 is it, and could it really be possible that the factory sent 3 pictures of the identical car out to at least 3 separate customers (and it certainly stands to reason that it could very well be more customers than just the 3 of us so far).
     
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    I don't think so, rebuild an Enzo on the production line! It would be done in the classiche dept.
    It depends how old the photo is, it could be a 488 or an F8
    Here is a photo of a friends 488 taken from my old F12
     
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    #7960 F2003-GA, Mar 30, 2019
    doesn't the Enzo have a carbon tub ? That car on the line has an entire body in white Sorry I don't agree on your assumption Plus the intakes are similar but not identical
     
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    #7961 JTSE30, Mar 30, 2019
    I see, the hood shape is also not an Enzo, maybe it's just a 488 ?

    drawing of Enzo (I do not believe it is carbon, price for item 1 (complete frame) is about $140,000 USD)

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    #7962 REALZEUS, Mar 31, 2019
    Are you really saying that you do not believe that the Enzo has a carbon-fibre chassis? You should tell Ferrari then, because they thought they made it of carbon... All Ferrari super/hyper-cars since the F50 have a carbon chassis and body panels also made of carbon.
     
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    #7963 JTSE30, Mar 31, 2019
    Well, no, not exactly, but if the frame is $140,000 then that sort of is unexpected for it to be entirely carbon fiber, right? I would think the price would be much much higher.

    For instance, the La Ferrari monocoque tub is, by comparison, priced at $860,000 :

    https://www.eurospares.co.uk/parts/ferrari/la-ferrari/bodywork-lighting/monocoque-tub-front-subchassis-central-flat-undertray-53822

    So I did not think the Enzo tub was carbon fiber, at least as is used in current production exotics.

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    Regarding the Enzo, here is what Ferrari writes:

    https://auto.ferrari.com/en_US/sports-cars-models/past-models/enzo-ferrari/

    Just 400 examples were built of the Enzo, which featured advanced composite bodywork and a carbon-fibre and aluminium honeycomb sandwich chassis and was equipped with a 5998cc 65° V12 producing 660hp. The car boasted extremely advanced aerodynamics of clear F1 inspiration, with downforce that reached a maximum of 775 kg at 300 km/h, and that then gradually decreased to 585 kg at its maximum speed of 350 km/h.

    ...In fact, all of the main surfaces were unadorned carbon-fibre while the steering wheel bristled with vehicle control buttons and switches like a Formula 1 car. Even the racing seat’s structure was carbon-fibre...

    ...its carbon-fibre brake discs...

    ...he Enzo’s chassis was made entirely from carbon-fibre and aluminium honeycomb sandwich panels which delivered the required results in terms of stiffness, weight reduction and safety...

    ...Frame ==> carbon-fibre and Nomex honeycomb monococque...

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    For comparison: in early 2010 McLaren claimed to be the first to use a one-piece carbon fiber chassis :

    https://www.compositesworld.com/news/mclaren-car-sports-carbon-fiber-chassis

    So, the Enzo certainly used carbon fiber but it is unlike what is now considered to be a carbon fiber (one piece) tub...so, not really apples-to-apples comparison at all..
     
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    #7964 REALZEUS, Mar 31, 2019
    The LaFerrari utilises F1 grade carbon, thus the absurd price. That doesn't mean that the Enzo did not have a CF tub. The CF tubs of McLarens use even lower grade carbon.
     
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    #7965 JTSE30, Mar 31, 2019
    Well, the Enzo tub is not "just" CF, it is a blend...

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    Where the La Ferrari's carbon is something more like this:

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    in other words, more or less only carbon fiber (and epoxies), no honeycomb

    the La Ferrari does mix it with Kevlar on the underbody to prevent road debris penetrations (just like F1)
     
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