NEW V8 MID ENGINED MODEL (BIG BROTHER)

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Genuine question, can it be an F40 tribute if it weighs 1.6 to 1.8 tonnes? If it is based on BB it won’t have LaF’s carbon tub so weight is going to struggle.

 

The weight of a car is related more than just the chassis - so like secondary structure, trim, mechanicals and other equipment. So if stripped down to basic equipment and with light weight body work, overall weight can be contained.

 

I don't think weight matters that much from this point of view. The SP1/SP2s are a tribute to the old barchette and they weight way more than a 750 Monza (roughly 800 kilos compared to ~1500). I'm also sure that Ferrari will try their best to contain weight and set the bar high in terms of overall performance, just like the F40 did in its days.

 

Is it possible that Ferrari takes a step back from hybrid and the pursuit of beauty on the F40 and focuses instead on weight and aero? A Ferrari Senna of sorts.


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That would be the correct path IMO

 

If they do some v12 MR....

Please don’t do this list

1. No huge front tire to “increase grip on front for track time”

2. No rear wheel steer to pretend the car can go around corner.

3. No huge wing on the back. Just give me enormous diffuser.

4. No so called “Wet or sport mode”. Just Race-CT off-ESC off

5. No center lock wheel.

6. No LCD Tachometer or sort.

We will end up with proper old school driver’s car than tdf.




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+1

 

Go drive a TDF... then get back to me with your corrected list


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Ok...

Um... take tdf minus RWS and put engine in the back?


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Why don’t you like the RWS? Sure, it takes some mental adjustment, but I don’t find it intrusive and the TDF turn in is epic


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I went to a similar Dinner
Hp figures yes
0-100klm yes
no mention to size of engine 8 or 12 cyl

 

do we need 4ws in a mid engine car???
100% for front engine with "mumbo"
just more weight ??? if engine behind

 

RWS is fine up to some point.

Once RWS stop fighting for grip and loses, the momentum in between until front grips again is not predictable.
Once you try to slide the rear for some reason like I do(I have to drift or slide every car I drive...it is a disease....), you will know.

Lets say, if you do donut, only way to do it with RWS is kick the gas and do a forced counter steer. Normally, you force a counter steer with your hands when your rear goes too far too fast.

Usually, that happens when you slide on ice or water. When RWS loses grip, it feels like the rear tire is on water spot. In short, you don’t know how far the rear will go.

This makes the car unpredictable at 10-10. Also, this makes those odd moments when you are just waiting for car to settle without knowing what to do when on slip angle while attacking track.

This is all because of those ridiculous front grip.

With my short english, this is best I can explain why I don’t like RWS.


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Haha - sorry to hear about your affliction. Your lap times must be terrible!



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Exactly...My lap time is long gone....lol



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To be clear, 911’s rear steer is more in tune with cars, more predictable and less pronounced even when you slide or do donuts.

I believe the differences are coming from wheel base length and weight of the car.


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Dare to imagine

 

LOL. I did - pretty sure I figured it out from the pics.

 

I have. I also haven’t loved the J50 or other recent designs...

 

Without hybrid they would be pretty much stuck with 720cv and releasing a special Icona with less power than a regular production model (BB) doesn't seem very likely to me.

J50, imho, is very nice, especially the side profile. However, I think the BB will have a different one. That being said, I'm more interested in figuring out the front at the moment..

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..which is usually a deal breaker or maker more than the side profile to me.

 

Please work your magic

 

The car is so heavily camouflaged that making out what's underneath is impossible. If all the lines we can see under the fabric are true, it would be one of the ugliest cars in all creation.

 

On a connected but tangential note, here are some very interesting F40 revival designs done by a designer who does not work at Ferrari. This was probably linked somewhere before, but if not...pictures for thought: https://www.yankodesign.com/2018/11/16/the-ferrari-f40-gets-an-unofficial-unbelievable-revival/

 

Well, according to Ferrari the 750 Monza had a kerb weight of 850 kg, whereas the Monza SP1 weighs 1500 dry.