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???POLL??? - Are you confident F1 will become more entertaining in the next following years?

Discussion in 'F1' started by Igor Ound, Apr 12, 2019.

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Yes or not?

  1. Yes

    13.2%
  2. No

    86.8%
  1. Sig. Roma

    Sig. Roma Formula 3
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    True
     
  2. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Not all teams.

    And we currently have very little testing even on fridays, partially because of limited mileage for the engines.

    It would be nice if teams where allowed a friday engine that doesnt' count towards their main engines in proper timed sessions. They could test new components and have virtually unlimited laps if they so wanted. It would be a start.
     
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  3. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Yes, all teams accepted the ban on unrestricted testing.
    Those in existence at the time, and those that joined since.
     
  4. Finlander

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    What an enjoyable post to read :)
     
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  5. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Memory is hazy but I don't think Ferrari was particularly pleased?
     
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  6. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    But they signed, no?

    I think money is hard to resist !
     
  7. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    I don't know the circumstances. My guess is ultimatum of some sort, either sign it or use your veto. And they weren't going to use the veto for that...
     
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  8. Mitch Alsup

    Mitch Alsup F1 Veteran

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    In the early Schumacher ear, Ferrari was going through ~200 engines (and transmissions) per year in testing; alone.

    That is the kind of testing it takes to get ahead.
     
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  9. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Mercedes uses a 100 a year on their dyno.

    Progress:Do_O

    I'm sure Ferrari and Honda are similarly going through a lot of engines...
     
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  10. Dino2010

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    #35 Dino2010, Apr 15, 2019
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    Want exciting F1? Get rid of FIA!
    They ruïned the whole game, from A to Z.
     
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  11. 375+

    375+ F1 World Champ
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    +1:D
     
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  12. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    FIA didn't ban the grid girls.
     
  13. Mitch Alsup

    Mitch Alsup F1 Veteran

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    While that may (MAY) make the engines better, it does nothing for the chassis, suspension, and aerodynamics.
     
  14. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Yep....so those engines wasting away on the dyno could be better used in a third development chassis...
     
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  15. ATBNM3

    ATBNM3 Formula 3

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    I think it's entertaining already
     
  16. Remy Zero

    Remy Zero Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Nope. F1 has been in the back foot since 2009 i think.
     
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  17. Remy Zero

    Remy Zero Two Time F1 World Champ

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    What the hell are you sitting in Portugal for when you should be in the FIA??

    Bloody hell any team would love to sign in with those terms..
     
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  18. TheMayor

    TheMayor Nine Time F1 World Champ
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    So there is one thing I don't understand about the "resistance" of F1 teams to decrease the size of the wings. They say it limits advertising space.

    REALLY? Look at the freakin' crazy front wings, which probably cost $100,000+ a piece at least. They are so broken up there's no place to put on advertising. The rear wing has been reduced and I don't see much of a difference.

    They need to rethink the sport so the cars rely more on mechanical grip, less on computer aids, and more on driver input. Simplify the drive train , increase the fuel allowance, and let the cars and drivers race more. This will lead to greater parity, more passing, and more exciting racing where you don't go in already thinking Mercedes or Ferrari are going to win.

    Personally I would ban all wind tunnels and do all the aero by computer. It would be more fair to all teams.
     
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  19. Remy Zero

    Remy Zero Two Time F1 World Champ

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    And get rid of those square so call steering wheel. those are not steering wheels but a computer. Let the driver focus on racing the wheels off the car, not managing a race.
     
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  20. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Oh absolutely. In my formula the steering wheel will be very simple:

    A button for pit request, a button for pit limiter, 2 paddles for up/downshifting and 2 clutch pedals (of which only one can be active at any one time, so no advanced starts by slipping one clutch and release the other more slowly).

    No more diff adjusts, bazillion engine maps and maps to manage maps. Want to go faster? Press the pedal more. Need to save fuel or whatever? Do it the old school way...lift of the throttle earlier and brake later.
     
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  21. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Not necessarily disagreeing with you but just wondering: In today's world of the Millenials where everything has to be iPhone connected, your back to the roots approach would likely be unappreciated. They would want to watch Game of Thrones on their steering wheels while "racing" in a GP. The more useless features on the wheel the happier they'd be.

    Then again I might be completely wrong as Millenials are probably more tuned into Formula E to begin with.
     
  22. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    It's everything around F1 that I find interesting, like the business aspect, contract time, the news and gossips, the post-race explanations, the drivers market, "who drives for who" next year, the spéculations, the change of ownership, etc ... and also the qualifications mostly.

    The race itself is very often a "lift-and-coast" procession after the first few laps, punctuated by pit stops dictated by tyre degradation, or provoked by team orders.

    One can almost predict the finishing order from the grid.
     
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  23. Igor Ound

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    #48 Igor Ound, Apr 24, 2019
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    My idea instead would be to abolish all electronics and make everything mechanical just like super expensive watches travelling at 300kph.
    Like an America’s cup of racing cars and just as exclusive. They never gave those boats engines just because it was more in tune with modern times.
     
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  24. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    I genuinely do not know of a single true millennial interested in Formula 1. Some that are interested is in Formula E but even that's a very small amount.
     
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  25. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Whoa. That's telling. I was afraid that'd be the answer.

    Of course I don't know any Millenial either who is interested in F1 but then again I live in the States. It is close to impossible to find anybody here of any age being interested in F1.
     

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