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  1. John M

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    A good one at the right price, yes worth the hype and very happy. The top really opens the car up with the top on. This accessory falls into the category of if I had the money, I'd get a ___________ for my 308. I would throw items like euro bumpers and grill and valences and front fog lights for US to euro conversion, or new leather upholstery versus a redye, or new carpet, etc. This top for me was on the top of that list, but was always price prohibitive.
     
  2. eyeman1234

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  3. Rosey

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    At $11,000, I think everyone interested is just waiting to win the lottery first !!
     
  4. G. Pepper

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    I would buy that, and I have the money, but there are just so many car projects of higher priority for me. I bet I'm not the only one in this situation. :)
     
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  5. miketuason

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    No, you’re not the only one
     
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  6. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

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    I pray it sells for that.
     
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    I sent a link to that to nerofer the other day and we had a good laugh about it.
     
  8. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

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    Hey, if that thing sets a precedent, mine is going on ebay the next day!
     
  9. miketuason

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    I’m keeping mine unles someone offers me something for it that I can’t refuse.
     
  10. John M

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    #85 John M, Jan 23, 2019
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    Its almost tax refund time! :D Make an offer. Join the club. I think that top has been listed for a couple of years from a reputable fchat seller James Bath.
     
  11. Rosey

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    Crazy price, but hey, if someone wants to spend that amount on a non-factory clear plexi roof good luck to them.
     
  12. miketuason

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    It’s just a matter of time it will be sold. I remember a Saratoga top jus like this one was sold for like $7000
     
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  14. miketuason

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    Wow that’s awesome! Talking about Lucky Seven!
    But eight is actually my lucky number. :)
     
  15. Rosey

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    A stunning group of 166MM barchetta's ?
     
  16. eyeman1234

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    Desert "barn find" "The car is a 1950 Ferrari 166MM Barchetta. According to Michael T. Lynch, a Monterey automotive historian who specializes in Ferraris, only 25 of these cars with the 2-liter V12 motors were built. Most of them still exist." Image Unavailable, Please Login
     
  17. Rosey

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    What, it was found abandoned in a desert ??
     
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  20. i-velocita

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    Not sure why anyone would expect this to bring high $...
    Cracked/poorly repaired frame, torn window seals, wrong pins, grungy Lexan and wrong pouch. Might be a good deal for someone willing to restore it if reserve is less than $3000 though.
     
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  21. sherrillt

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    Agree - Hard to believe any of these have sold for over $1k in the past. Back when our car values were on the rapid rise, I speculate buyers felt flush to dish out dollars. Now that there has been a leveling and correction I think the "irrational exuberance" has calmed down.

    As noted by someone above, it's an aftermarket accessory and I personally would not value one over $1k regardless. What were these selling for new back in day anyway?
     
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  22. i-velocita

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    Not sure re the price when new. Good luck finding something decent around $1k now. The best examples are easily bringing high four figures. Rare and cool period accessory. Not to everyone’s taste. That’s part of the fun.
     
  23. sherrillt

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    Interesting thought/claim, but based on what data? Sounds wildly speculative. Someone above posted there were possibly only 150 made, if so I doubt there are that many recent/relevant actual sales data points to make such an assertion on current values. I have only seen the two on ebay for sale recently with lofty asking prices, which do not equal actual value prices.

    In real estate, comp values are only relevant for the past 6mos; car&art values are pegged to the latest auction values; for stocks it's yesterdays share price or market speculation. In the car parts/accessories world...who really knows?!? my guess is the offer/bid prices on venues such as ebay.

    The last example of one of these roofs was bid up to $717 (offer price) and stalled out - as a no sale, which tells me all the interested parties/buyers who took time to even look for such an obscure item said it's not worth much more than that, while the seller believes it is worth at least $3k based on a recent lowered reserve. You can argue you saw or heard of one sell for far more 6 months ago or last year, but that doesn't mean anyone will pay that much today or tomorrow.

    Prices are up'n - down on practically all specialty items. Case in point - all my unique cars were selling for far more 2 years ago, than what any one of them would bring today at various auction forums (BJ, RM, ebay, BaT, etc), and that's based on what I have seen in listings and sales. Honestly, I and anyone else would be totally delusional to think non-recent valuation was a current value if trying to market cars, house, or art items today.
     

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