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  1. Hopper

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    right exhaust smoke after unit is warmed up
     
  2. scowman

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    Pull plugs. Compare and contrast.
     
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  3. Qavion

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    Who said polite conversation and good grammar was dead?

    fire hot belly full want woman
     
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  4. scowman

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    Omg lol
     
  5. Rifledriver

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    Determine type of smoke first.
     
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  6. scowman

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    I would do that by looking at plugs.
     
  7. Rifledriver

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    What will the plugs look like if it is brake fluid? Coolant? Oil? Condensation?


    I can tell all of those by standing behind the car and I never touched a tool or wasted everyones time.


    But I have a better idea. Lets take the car apart and look smart.
     
  8. Glassman

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    I have never been very concerned about brake fluid getting into the engine.
     
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  9. Jdubbya

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    Well maybe you should be. ;)

    I agree to smell and look at the smoke. The first big question I usually want to know is....is it smoke or steam.
     
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  10. Enzojr

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    Same thing I thought, has to be the muffler bearing.

    OP take a video for a minute or two and post it.
     
  11. Ferrari Tech

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    I have my popcorn and a drink, this might get good.
     
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  12. steved033

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    That's the wrong format. it should be: popcorn and drink this might get good

    kinda like a haiku

    smoky 308
    right bank only on warm up
    can you help f-chat?
     
  13. Rifledriver

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    And why you shouldn't be diagnosing cars.

    It is not an uncommon source of exhaust smoke.
     
  14. Glassman

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    Thanks, I'll keep that in mind when I am diagnosing my car.
     
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  15. scowman

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    Whatever dude.
     
  16. tbakowsky

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    Gotta agree with Brain here, I have seen it, although pretty rare. Not something you would usually consider.
     
  17. Glassman

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    Ok ..........I'm confused here. How does brake fluid get into the engine in the first place then exit out the exhaust.
    This makes no sense to me at all.
     
  18. Ferrari Tech

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    Vacuum booster leaks and the engine makes the vacuum so brake fluid gets sucked into the intake and burned through the engine.
     
  19. Rifledriver

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    Vacuum boosters do not leak brake fluid.

    Master cylinders leak brake fluid and it isn't that unusual as previously stated. Fairly common actually.

    It leaks into the booster and the engine vacuum sucks it in.


    A website full of self proclaimed experts and almost none know of this. That says it all.
     
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  20. Glassman

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    Apparently when they were passing out Ego's you super sized.
     
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  21. 2NA

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    I've seen a few boosters full of brake fluid. When the master seals rot out, it's where the fluid ends up.
     
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  22. Rifledriver

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    Says one of the few qualified to provide advice around here.
     
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  23. Ferrari Tech

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    Clearly I am not qualified to post in this league. I will politely bow out. No need for my confusion to be added to the knowledge base.
     
  24. Rifledriver

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    If you want to disqualify yourself thats fine but I sure didn't do it.
     
  25. finnerty

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    I'm sure you can, as can most seasoned techs (or even some DIY'ers) with a lot of experience.

    That said, I doubt the OP has that level of expertise, so I am actually going to be the only here >so far< to give him some useful advice ---- something that he can actually, and easily, DO.

    >>>> While the exhaust is smoking, hold a clean, dry, white cloth rag over the tip of the tail pipe for a few minutes ----- long enough to collect a good, visible, sample amount of the residue exiting.

    From the wetness, color, smell, feel, and even taste (be careful to spit it out immediately) of the collected residue you can tell almost everything you need to determine what the "smoke" consists of........ and, that will point you towards its source and an accurate diagnosis of the most likely problem(s).
     

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