NEW V8 MID ENGINED MODEL (BIG BROTHER)

Could one person translate in broad line please?

 

Yes.

Not only that, I went to the unveilings for many of the recent cars and once the fabric was pulled got the impression the folks around me were underwhelmed. Yes, there were the Corsa Clienti folks that would buy anything, among others that simply want to get the 812 tdf (or whatever it'll be called).

Reliability wise and quality, Ferrari now produces cars head and shoulders than before. Apart from the 488, they just lack that special sauce.

Hopefully Big Brother will change that.

 

Interesting view. Of course a 250 Lusso or a 512 BB has more “special sauce” for me too, but today’s cars are objectively better. I understand what you mean, but I m not sure any of the modern manufacturers have much special sauce left. My point being that the “charm” of old cars is now seen as unreliability by modern buyers, safety rules reduce manufacturers freedom to design beautiful shapes and cost pressure leads to cars being variations of other models. All facts of the modern car making world...Just compare a modern Porsche with a 993 GT2...I m just finishing my Singer Porsche and that has plenty of soul but it is also a 30 year old car at heart!


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So what is latest expected date for unveiling?

 

Please get facts straight before responding. Since when did I say "everyone who wants one will get a Pista"? That was user ttforcefed, not me. What I mentioned, as in my case, was you need to have sufficient history with your dealer to get one and not to fall for the BS marketing game of buying a Lusso/flavor of the month. Sufficient history means different things depending on your market. If you live in a larger market with a huge buying pool, then your history needs to be greater, etc.

My dealer is not an idiot, in fact they're one of the largest in North America, a dealer can and will order a car for stock (which never happened before), but with the production increase, they will push an order not to lose the allocation.

They may be selling more 812s and Lussos, but clearly not as many as they had hoped, which is why they moved some Portofino production to the V12 assembly line. Don't believe me, feel free to walk it. In the USA, you can order either with no wait or history, that should tell you a lot.

North America is a whole different market compared to Switzerland.

 

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Very well said and agree. Hopefully BB can incorporate a new design language that will eventually translate to other Ferrari lines.

For me, the F8 was such a disappointment and a step in the wrong direction I feel, same with the 812.

 

Let’s be clear about one thing. Ferrari dealers can and DO order cars for stock in Europe and elsewhere. Nothing wrong with that of course
I bought my F12 new from the dealer’s showroom... I think it is great that this is -only occasionally- possible...


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That is going to be one good looking car!
Has a lot of road presence as well.

 

Stunning!!....looks to have well balanced proportions and cohesive lines flowing through the entire body which is the benefit of a bottom up new model rather than a facelift of an old platform. This is is a whole new world for Ferrari but I think this car will shock the world and reaffirm why we all love this brand with cult like passion!!

 

Hope it will last longer than regular models and be reliable as well.
Is it going to be a track oriented car like the Senna?

 

Public or private? The presentations in Maranello are next week Wed-Fri


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Singer is a 964 starting point? Since you could choose anything; what color combination did you go with?

 

I prefer to send pictures when the car is ready. It is being painted now, so I don’t want to jinx it!! Waited close to 2 years to get here!!!
Regarding the base, it is a 964 C2

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Any info about open door sistem? Regular open? Butterlfy/seagull open?

 

Absolutely, I understand perfectly, NO jinx! 2 years is worse than some Ferrari models!!! Thank you for your update on the Singer progress.

 

This test driver is from the same group that was doing early development work on the BB last year. They are also currently testing the Monza SP 1 as well.

 

#4 will truly be the interesting event to watch. With all the exotic manufacturers being pushed into the same corner and having to transform their entire lineup into a hybrid powertrain setup, the end of the pure internal combustion engine supercar is here. Undoubtely the hybrid or even pure electric cars will ultimately have higher performance and with no alternatives in the marketplace this change to hybrid technology will be different than other technology introductions in the past.

 

May 29, 7pm Maranello time.

 

Are any people going to the launch event from the UK? Are there three evenings - 29/30/31?

 

There is no doubt in my mind Scuderia Ferrari is hurting, and something is seriously wrong. Like all sports - things change, I"m from the Bay Area, look at Golden State Warriors if you want to talk drought. Look at Lakers/Celtics.

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As far as aesthetics, I never debate that objectively, if you think the F8 and other offerings look fugly but the Pista is beautiful, silly for me to try and say you are wrong, but I will say I found it odd since most folks seem to say the Pista/F8 look similar (especially front the front/side.)

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The part I disagree entirely with is the macro sales situation. I don't know every micro situation with every region (your dealer for example), but unless they are cooking the books, the company is going from strength to strength in total. Now, are they losing their 'secret' sauce or whatever what one wants to call it, may be true - and just to plain subjective for me to argue one way or another.

 

I'm going on the 30th, are there a lot of people per presentation?

 

His favourite Ferrari is the 330 P4 (he also has a model on his desk) and you can never go wrong with that. Timeless beauty.

 

Yup. On the 30th

 

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