NEW V8 MID ENGINED MODEL (BIG BROTHER)

A little bit of exageration, a Bentley continental weighs 2400 kgs in real life ..

 

Why does it say it's limited edition?

 

My worst fears personally but I am new to the brand and have faith in the magicians in Maranello, until proven otherwise lol. Ain’t over till the fat lady sings, maybe on May 31


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Probably not over on the 31st either, except for the appearance. The tech by Ferrari’s own admission (and by the marketing speak - “dare to dream”) suggests this will be a car that pushes the ICE/electric envelope but will inevitably be a solution to the various compromises that brings. It won’t be until the press and then customers drive the car that we’ll really know what the car truly is.

 

That conclusion is way too early let's wait for reveal

 

For some the 'fat lady' has already sung...

 

I guess they might as well go home

 

Ya go home and drive some noise...

 

Precisely how fat will this lady be and will her pipes be sullied by turbo-whine, a GPF-muzzle and EV-autotune?

Earlier there was speculation of 1000 kg which generated discussion. Now we have a vote for 2000 kg which will drive some to Chicken Little degrees of “the sky is falling Ferrari is dead long live Ferrari” pearl-clutching consternation.

We have reached 2000 posts based on whispered hints and camouflaged mules. I think there will be another 2000 after the reveal before there’s any real concrete experience beyond the presentation.

I for one am vastly entertained but ultimately I’ll reserve judgment for a later date.
And for sure the real car is going to be more entertaining than this interminable thread

 

Sad but accurate.

 

Yeah, but this thread is keeping us going in the mean time


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Is there a doubt though that it will be amazing to drive?

 

Absolutely no doubt about that.

 

My fear is we get something as visually challenging as the Senna and 720S. My fear is Ferrari are simply following McLaren rather than leading...who knows this might be Ferrari's of that whale of a car otherwise known as the Speedtail.

 

That depends if one can actually use the performance on offer...I am sure it will be fearsomely fast but it needs to be entertaining at slow speed too.

 

While the F8 was a huge swing and miss for me personally (YMMV), if Ferrari is drawing inspiration from the 330 P4 + looks like a spaceship (from remarks from in the know members), this car should be hard to mess up visually/better be stunning!

Ferrari has a good opportunity to show the world why it is the best carmaker in the world and reset the benchmark with this car in the new era/territory of regular production hybrid supercars, both in design and performance. Hoping yet again they can prove this true! Forza Ferrari

 

This new car looks better with its puffy camo than the Senna ever can. The proportions look right, the windshield looks good - it just needs to avoid tacky details to be a stunner. While some of the production cars have not been perfect, the latest one-offs and LEs look amazing.

Biggest concern for me is weight creep.

 

Have you done any sketching based off latest camo shots ??

 

When creating something unique, Mr Manzoni sounds very convincing >

"But then, when we talk about Ferrari, we always consider three fundamental components - technological innovation, the pleasure of driving and beauty. So, the aspect of innovation is fundamental to Ferrari design.”

 

I agree, but unlike some journos, I find Ferraris entertaining at all speeds. The razor-sharp responses of the powertrain and chassis, their alacrity and sound, makes them good fun even at 30 mph.

 

I wouldn't be worried about that, at all. Design, from what I can fathom, looks conservative enough to be quite far away from Senna or Speedtail's territory, which could potentially be disappointing for some, given the initial claim of a "spaceship" design (obviously very subjective and open to different interpretations).

For Manzoni, technical innovations are challenging and exciting at the same time. "We'll see a different shape, but it will be outstanding", those were his words about the BB. In all honesty, I don't expect it to be incredibly different from what we've already seen in the past, but I hope to be surprised in a positive way! Fingers crossed.

 

Best? Based on what, wishful thinking?

I genuinely hope Ferrari bring their A game with this new model, as they are currently trailing behind. F8 is a stopgap, not out, and yet still failing to play catch-up to the competition.

Ferrari needs to jump into the lead in the supercar sector, like they once were.

 

I am having pizza, panini and Peroni with the fat lady Thursday - she can’t sing and her form follows function ... however I’m certain her wet weight with fluids will allow her to outperform expectations on opening night ..... no performance anxiety there ..

 

LOL..... so she is overweight, not pretty, but a bit of a go-er with plenty of oomph

 

As we are still in the speculative phase of this upcoming reveal, it may be interesting to hear peoples thoughts about the market segment this “bb” will be joining.

If the price point is approximately $800,000 and the powertrain is hybrid, with the mission being more sport than GT, are there any direct competitors at present the check off these boxes? I can’t think of any. Does this mean that Ferrari is creating it’s own new segment? If so, very clever.

Koenigsegg partnering with NEVS to produce a sub $1 million hybrid sports car has been described in very general terms in the media. This would represent direct competition with respect to price point, powertrain, mission. However, at this point, there’s not much publicly known beyond press releases

My personal feeling is that even more than the BB model as an end in itself, it’s more important function in the long term for Ferrari will be as the means to introduce a new hybrid era and serve as the halo model in which future variants will be basking in the reflective glow.

I know LaF was hybrid but I believe there will be significant enough difference that it’s not as relevant from a marketing perspective. And yes, of course, there will be special versions and then superduper hyper limited versions which become the newest shiniest toy-halo in the future. But bb is the test piece.

Especially in light of the FUV, there’s going to need to be some very new buzz/juice/excitement about the updated architecture so that people will be stoked to drink the new Kool-Aid.

If these thoughts have any validity from a strategic standpoint, Ferrari better hit it out of the park