LE vs SE

if they made 399 of the f40 it wld be worth 5M.

value is a function of specialness and supply and it not linear across models.

generally, 400 units is small, 800 is good, 1200 is pretty limited, 2500 is alot.

 

With how many more wealthy people exist now than in the past even 1000 is a very low run for these cars

 

There are many more wealthy people yes but there are also more expensive cars. The market is flooded and saturated with 200k plus cars.


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$200k yes. But Im more discussing $400k+ which is a very different demographic.

 

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Its really not. The percentage of people per capita who can afford a $200k car vs $400k car is drastically different.

 

that's not relevant - what's relevant is how many more people today can afford a 400k car versus 10 and 20 yrs ago

 

In looking at current high value (F40, etc...) collector cars. They seem to demonstrate a first technology or a provenance that people value. What I am curious about is that were these cars super popular (youtube show, magazine stories, etc...) before or after they auctioned off for crazy money?

Moreover, supply/demand will always favor a smaller production run with higher pricing IF it becomes popular.

Lastly, at the risk of sounding overly critical, I currently see the LE and SE cars as kind of a marketing bandwagon every manufacturer is on nowadays. Though time will tell how this affects future values.

Of course, what folks will be willing to shell out a million for 20 years from now is impossible to predict.

 

Yes. But you knew that already.

 

I liked it better when cars were limited because not so many people ordered them, and then collectors recognized them years later. Ferrari and others are free to do what they want, but the forced limited editions are a little disturbing to me personally.

288 GTO- They needed to build 200 for Group B rules. They built 272 because that's how many were ordered. F40- Seems like they built as many as were ordered. Then they started this limited nonsense with the F50.

The L-88 Corvette is rare and valuable because few people ordered them. 20 in '67, 196 in '68/'69.

Some of these later manual cars are limited and special because few people ordered them. Ross' friend is auctioning a manual California this month. I think they only made 5.

Ferrari announces something is limited and all of these jackals, who aren't really even car people, scramble to acquire them like tokens to flip them later. The whole allocation process is a circus. Ferrari should just sell them at a market price. They should auction them new and cut out the flippers.

There have always been low mileage and time capsule cars since the beginning, but it has gone from a novelty to a regular common practice.

When I bought my '89 328 in '94 it had 900 miles on it. Someone had put it away and I was happy that there was still a "New" one available. But I bought it to drive and I did.

I wish Ferrari would just make cars and not just deal in limited product for the purpose of dealing in limited product.